Michael Haines
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Oh I believe it's a defect but after few wears at least for me it goes away. My problem is recently its been happening allot to me. This year four pairs had that problem.
If it goes away after a few wears I'm not sure it's a defect; rather, some would call that the break-in process. My lumps did not go away - but I'm glad yours did.
I don't think the McAllister was ever offered in corrected grain, was it?They could be corrected grain - in that case they will feel plasticky no matter what you do. They will hold up very well to almost anything, but look and feel plasticky. I imagine that's why AE went away from it. A pic might help.
Thanks, and good to know. For belts I have always used AE Leather Lotion. Not too long ago I switched to Bickmore Bicks 4 which is identical, cheaper and easy to find at any tack shop or farm and fleet. It looks and behaves the same as AE leather lotion, it doesn't leave a residue and doesn't darken leather. I use it on my AE Wilbert's so as to not darken the contrast stitching, Filson bridle leather, and belts.
Like bucksfan said at first just wear them, and enjoy. After they need cleaning and conditioning for CXL I use hot water and saddle soap, and only fiebings glycerine saddle soap which is 100% glycerine. With CXL and chrome tanned leather I use a stiff nylon scrub brush, it will restore the short nap that exist on the surface of the CXL. Wait until they are completely dry and then treat with Reno which will restore the luster as good or even better than when new. Waterproofing will take that luster away somewhat, if you want to wear them as a dress boot you are done. That is how I do it and it has worked well for me. There are a lot of different ways of doing it but some IMO over do the use of too many products.
Glad to see Jay Clay mentioned using saddle soap for cleaning Daltons to remove old build up. Saddle soap seems to be a forbidden product on SF. Not all saddle soaps are created equal and 100% glycerine is pretty safe to say the least. Just make sure to use a sponge and not a brush on calf and finer leathers. I have not had to use saddle soap on my finer dress shoes but have used it on some more casual shoes, and all my hiking and hunting boots. And saddle soap is recommended by AE for cleaning\conditioning dublin leather like the McTavish and Krause.
Ordered Long Branches from Jay. Excellent value since I lucked out with firsts in tan. If you were looking for Long Branches, this is the time and Jay was really a pleasure to talk to.
Yep - AE calls it "polished cobbler." An example:I don't think the McAllister was ever offered in corrected grain, was it?
I recently purchased the new Bourbon Calf strands in the 5 last with an E width. I have Strands in a EE width that fit like a glove but unfortunately the Bourbon Calf's aren't yet available in that size. EEE felt too wide on my feet at the store.
Long story short the E width I received seems a bit too small for my (hobbit-like) feet. Does anyone here have experience with getting their shoes professionally stretched at a cobbler? Is it effective or not worth trying? I am a bit concerned these are too small all around so I may resell them anyhow but I'm curious about stretching.
Thanks!
They could be corrected grain - in that case they will feel plasticky no matter what you do. They will hold up very well to almost anything, but look and feel plasticky. I imagine that's why AE went away from it. A pic might help.
Yep - AE calls it "polished cobbler." An example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Edmon...h=item23252a3ffb&ssPageName=RSS:B:SHOP:US:101
I had a pair of black MacNeils for a while in corrected grain. It's decent for corrected grain, but it's not full grain leather...
Did you find that corrected grain leather has an unfair reputation in terms of durability then?
Also, a side question that the pictures of the shoes in that ebay posting reminded me of... When you look at the pictures of the soles, you see where the stitching on the bottom of the shoes has been worn down. Any experience with this leading to sole separation from the welt before the soles are actually worn out? They are supposed to be "lock-stitched", so my understanding is that they should still be very durable even after the concrete has worn down the stitching on the bottom of the shoes. Just curious if you or anyone else has had any experience otherwise. Some of my shoes have worn through some small segments of the stitching (like at the toe, or at the widest point of the sole around the ball of the foot), but not enough to lead to sole separation. The shoes in the ebay pictures have had a major percentage worn through.
Quality corrected grain shoes can be very durable. They will have the micro-creases you see in that auction, but if rotated like any other quality shoe will last extremely well. I just do not find that sort of creasing attractive. My business partner has a few pair that are going on 30 years old, and they will last him for the remainder of his career, I am confident. One pair, in particular, is a pair of AE saddle shoes that he wears any time it rains or snows, sometimes 3-4 days in a row. The only care he gives them is the periodic airport shoe shine.
I have seen shoes where the sole stitching is worn as you see in that auction, and much worse. As you correctly point out, it should be "lock" stitched, so the sole will not come away from the welt due to this sort of wear.
I tried the Bourbon Calf Strands on again last night and they actually fit how I like them. Kind of tight like a soccer cleat but that's what I prefer. Oddly when I tried them on yesterday morning they felt tighter but I suppose my feet may have been swollen or something. I'll give them a few more tries around the house before I scar them on the sidewalk.