WAYWRN: Classic Menswear, Casual Style

apropos said:

A problem that IMO keeps cropping up in this thread is the shoehorning of business/work elements into casual fits, where they just... do not work.

Many members look like they tried to re-use parts of their work wardrobe in casual fits, or simply swapped out the colours of items in their ensemble, or worse, tried removing/modifiying a single element of a MC work fit in an attempt to 'casualise' it.

You have a fit with a navy jacket that for all intents and purposes looks conservative business dress workwear paired with... 'fun' belt and faded jeans. And then there are multiple examples of shirt wih sleeves left unrolled and collars buttoned up to -1, looking like you've lost your jacket somewhere along the way. And then a conservative business dress-which-has-lost-it's-way look, complete with balmoral shoe and worsted wool trou. And then there is that 'motorcycle' casual look, which has been forever seared into my retinas and which I swear I have seen before at Zara... in the women's section.

gshen IMO does a more than decent job - clothes are casual, style is casual, accessories are casual, colours are casual. Everything gels.

Just my 0.02

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Fuuma said:

Originally Posted by acecow

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I am with you, but not if it stops a lot of people from posting. I see a lot more inspirational fits in classical ensembles than casual ones. I'd like to see more of the latter. To get some new ideas. It would be cool if you'd cross-post from SW&D here. Your fits are always very interesting.

I could but, once again, if it becomes too precise its not like I fit in the theme.

I mean...

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apropos said:

A problem that IMO keeps cropping up in this thread is the shoehorning of business/work elements into casual fits, where they just... do not work.

Many members look like they tried to re-use parts of their work wardrobe in casual fits, or simply swapped out the colours of items in their ensemble, or worse, tried removing/modifiying a single element of a MC work fit in an attempt to 'casualise' it.

You have a fit with a navy jacket that for all intents and purposes looks conservative business dress workwear paired with... 'fun' belt and faded jeans. And then there are multiple examples of shirt wih sleeves left unrolled and collars buttoned up to -1, looking like you've lost your jacket somewhere along the way. And then a conservative business dress-which-has-lost-it's-way look, complete with balmoral shoe and worsted wool trou. And then there is that 'motorcycle' casual look, which has been forever seared into my retinas and which I swear I have seen before at Zara... in the women's section.

gshen IMO does a more than decent job - clothes are casual, style is casual, accessories are casual, colours are casual. Everything gels.

Just my 0.02

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Ianiceman said:

I like the idea of this thread, but page 11 alone shows the dangers of trying to find a middle ground between Apropos' comments regarding business wear with one item changed, and pics that really belong on SW&D.

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cptjeff said:

I don't think 'businesswear with one item changed' is anywhere near what people think of with MC casual. The way I think about it is casual clothing from the MC mindset. SW&D has a very different outlook on clothing. Pember's fit, in terms of it's approach, would go very well in that forum. Cuffed jeans, no collar, sweater that verges on the 'anti-fit' "ideal"...

Basically, I think of MC casual as a more mature understanding of casual dressing, ranging in formality from a step or two below business casual to a step below traditional business attire. There's going to be an overlap with some SW&D in there (see Fuuma's latest post), but it's not going to overlap with the four clowns on a street corner picture.

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apropos said:

A problem that IMO keeps cropping up in this thread is the shoehorning of business/work elements into casual fits, where they just... do not work.

looking like you've lost your jacket somewhere along the way.

gshen IMO does a more than decent job - clothes are casual, style is casual, accessories are casual, colours are casual. Everything gels.

Just my 0.02

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Fuuma said:

Well I'm one of the four clowns (who are very well dressed btw, you just don't know the codes) AND the one who posted a real relaxed fit with dress shoes and dress shirt a few posts above.

Another problem with mc casual: if you're wearing your regular gray dress slacks, dress shoes and a dress shirt you're just a guy who lost his jacket.

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Fuuma said:

Well I'm one of the four clowns (who are very well dressed btw, you just don't know the codes) AND the one who posted a real relaxed fit with dress shoes and dress shirt a few posts above.

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