Site Topics - Part II

Originally Posted by GoldenTribe

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For starters, there's tons of unnecessary padding, especially in the sidebar keeping the advertisers from accidentally brushing against one another's typographical unmentionables.

There's almost 100 pixels of empty space hardcoded into any given horizontal thread cross-section:

I never thought I'd see the Forvm get Foofed.

fok test info pls

Great... even more reason not to visit SF.

I want to throw it out there that the side bar was ok at work (except for what were obvious glitches). Now that I am browsing on my netbook (10" ...works fine with every site I use), it is terrible. Here are a few examples. On my User CP page, it forces it all to fit which means that thread titles are condensed to 3-4 lines which makes them hard to read and needs an ass ton of scrolling on a thread page or a reply page, it enables side scrolling...this is partially a glitch I think because I have a lot of space to the left of my post box...but not enough to fit the side bar. Modern websites should really never force the user to scroll sideways (except for full size images that wouldn't otherwise fit). I've got 1024 pixels across... that should be enough to fit the content that we come here for. edit: as someone who posts a lot from work, I like that there are no massive indicators of what I am looking at (it is a very on and off job so it is totally OK that I am browsing SF...I would just rather not make it obvious from a distance what I am looing at). The SF logo and affiliates won't show up once you scroll down on the old page (and I have used a plugin to hide the large SF logo entirely)...but the sidebar will presumably always be there. edit: what is this, 1997?

Originally Posted by LA Guy

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Like Jeremy said, the side bar will actually be used for other things as well. The sidebar there right now is a simplified version - mainly because VB can't support everything we are going to have there.

For example, the sidebar, in the new B&S system, will list all of the same seller's items (like an Ebay store, but right there on the page). On the front page, the sidebar, for logged in users, will see their messages.

People in the sandbox system can see this. In stitches, I will send you the test site info, so you can see what there is there. You can log in as yourself once you are there. Please take a look.



hope its ok for me to say this, but since you told me to have a look thats exactly what i did.

i am very happy to report that in the new layout the sidebar issue is hardly worth worrying about. its a diferent look thats for sure but not intrusive the way it is now. i dont know quite how to explain it but the way its set up its just not a bother.

there is some dead space on the right side on some pages but it doesnt distort everything the way its doing now. and everything is in screen view no scrolling to the right to see things. looks really cool too. much sleeker and more current looking with very nifty (yes i said nifty) features.

bravo guys, bravo!

Originally Posted by in stitches

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hope its ok for me to say this, but since you told me to have a look thats exactly what i did.

i am very happy to report that in the new layout the sidebar issue is hardly worth worrying about. its a diferent look thats for sure but not intrusive the way it is now. i dont know quite how to explain it but the way its set up its just not a bother.

there is some dead space on the right side on some pages but it doesnt distort everything the way its doing now. and everything is in screen view no scrolling to the right to see things. looks really cool too. much sleeker and more current looking with very nifty (yes i said nifty) features.

bravo guys, bravo!

I sure hope so.

Originally Posted by otc

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I want to throw it out there that the side bar was ok at work (except for what were obvious glitches).

Now that I am browsing on my netbook (10" ...works fine with every site I use), it is terrible. Here are a few examples.

On my User CP page, it forces it all to fit which means that thread titles are condensed to 3-4 lines which makes them hard to read and needs an ass ton of scrolling
on a thread page or a reply page, it enables side scrolling...this is partially a glitch I think because I have a lot of space to the left of my post box...but not enough to fit the side bar. Modern websites should really never force the user to scroll sideways (except for full size images that wouldn't otherwise fit).
I've got 1024 pixels across... that should be enough to fit the content that we come here for.

edit: as someone who posts a lot from work, I like that there are no massive indicators of what I am looking at (it is a very on and off job so it is totally OK that I am browsing SF...I would just rather not make it obvious from a distance what I am looing at). The SF logo and affiliates won't show up once you scroll down on the old page (and I have used a plugin to hide the large SF logo entirely)...but the sidebar will presumably always be there.

edit: what is this, 1997?

I am not a computer jock and this page layout ( as above ) is terrible ( at least to me ).

I didn't even notice it, but yeah. It's really chaotic.

Even though I know parts of the implementation of the sidebar will be changed just some thoughts.

On my Desire HD the banners take about 25% of a very tiny screen which is just enough to make this 34 year old squint.

On my 16:9 laptop screen using firefox the right side of the group of banners isn't visible unless side scrolling. This is no great miss to me. I see Explorer and Chrome condense the page in the content part, which would be worse. Edit: Apparently how it works varies from thread to thread on the laptop.

I know there are bills to be paid so implementing the banner part of the sidebar is probably a foregone conclusion. And it doesn't seem like you've sold your souls just yet. But perhaps the sidebar could be made half the width of the current version. If you'd wanted it to stand out more you could always change the sequence of banners randomly so every page gives a fresh view. The current implementation will probably get me used to narrowing my view and squinting my eyes. And do we really want more narrow minded, squinty eyed people on SF? (no racist)

I have no doubt that the mods will have an exceptional and perfect site up in no time and that all will be pleased.

Originally Posted by Artisan Fan

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Way too much in ads. Looks horrible. Uncomfortable to read threads now.

So this means you'll be posting less?

Originally Posted by Teger

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fok test info pls
I did post a few screenshots from my laptop and phone into the sticky on MC. SF is looking rather messed-up today. Look forward to seeing the finished product tomorrow.

I often browse in a 1920-pixel-wide screen split in half. The sidebar completely ruins it for me.

I guess I'm late to the party coming here to ***** about the sidebar.

Just kidding, I don't care, this forum has wordwrap so what's the big deal.

yea on the new layout it's not a big deal. kind of nice on the front page cause it shows you your pm box.

Originally Posted by CDFS

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Even though I know parts of the implementation of the sidebar will be changed just some thoughts.

On my Desire HD the banners take about 25% of a very tiny screen which is just enough to make this 34 year old squint.

On my 16:9 laptop screen using firefox the right side of the group of banners isn't visible unless side scrolling. This is no great miss to me. I see Explorer and Chrome condense the page in the content part, which would be worse. Edit: Apparently how it works varies from thread to thread on the laptop.

I know there are bills to be paid so implementing the banner part of the sidebar is probably a foregone conclusion. And it doesn't seem like you've sold your souls just yet. But perhaps the sidebar could be made half the width of the current version. If you'd wanted it to stand out more you could always change the sequence of banners randomly so every page gives a fresh view. The current implementation will probably get me used to narrowing my view and squinting my eyes. And do we really want more narrow minded, squinty eyed people on SF? (no racist)

when you see the new system youll see its nothing like the way it is now. its a clean look not all crazy like it is now. the sidebar doesnt eat up as much space.