Do any of you believe in God?

scarphe · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by Dakota rube

You're kidding, right?

how do people know about jesus christ and the myths around him if not through organized religion? or is tere some secret tradition about him that is not base upon the new testament? The new teastment was chopped up and put together by organized religion approving which text shoudl be part of it etc. so it is hard to get organized religion ot of the picture when refering to jesus christ.

Dakota rube · Nov 11, 2010

You don't think an individual can have a personal relationship and/or belief in God merely by reading the Bible and prayer? I guess I am being naive in thinking the Bible can be disconnected from "organized religion".

scarphe · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by Dakota rube

You don't think an individual can have a personal relationship and/or belief in God merely by reading the Bible and prayer? I guess I am being naive in thinking the Bible can be disconnected from "organized religion".

not really, knowing that editing of the bible was done by organized religion. and since you know jesus christ through the new testament and that view has the tags of organized reliion on it. That supposed perosnal relationship is being guided in someway by organized religion as you use the view created by one.
can you explain how the personal realtionsip you describe is possible whiel using the bible as a guide?

edinatlanta · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by scarphe

and since you knwo jesus chris

He's a good guy.

scarphe · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by edinatlanta

He's a good guy.

read john he could be prick as well.

Dakota rube · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by scarphe

can you explain how the personal realtionsip you describe is possible whiel using the bible as a guide?

No. I don't think I will try.

edinatlanta · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by scarphe

read john he could be prick as well.

jon. is Jewish, no?

JustinW · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by RSS

Of course not. I am Episcopalian, after all.

So you support disorganized religion?

scarphe · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by edinatlanta

jon. is Jewish, no?

i doubt that jon is jewish, because if he is jewish i am catholic.

hilasmos · Nov 11, 2010

Yes, I believe in God, creation, Jesus being raised from the dead, all of it.

NorCal · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by scarphe

how do people know about jesus christ and the myths around him if not through organized religion? or is tere some secret tradition about him that is not base upon the new testament? The new teastment was chopped up and put together by organized religion approving which text shoudl be part of it etc. so it is hard to get organized religion ot of the picture when refering to jesus christ.

Revelation.

Originally Posted by Dakota rube

You don't think an individual can have a personal relationship and/or belief in God merely by reading the Bible and prayer? I guess I am being naive in thinking the Bible can be disconnected from "organized religion".

To some degree you are but I still think you are basically right. You can also bring Gnosticism and the various Christian mystery cults and other forms of direct devotion into the mix.

NorCal · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by scarphe

i doubt that jon is jewish, because if he is jewish i am catholic.

???

rennavate · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by NorCal

One could argue that seeing as religion and some idea of "God" has arisen in every social group, society, tribe, or band suggests that it is, in fact, intuitive.

That's a terrible argument.

NorCal · Nov 11, 2010

Originally Posted by gfreeman

That's a terrible argument.

Not really. Notice I said "religion" not "the Organized Catholic Church." When the same thing independently happens across every single culture that has ever arisen on Earth it is a pretty strong suggestion that it speaks to some basic, intuitive, human need, or , perhaps, if you are a believer, to some basic Universal Truth.

dahl5yankees · Nov 11, 2010

Yes, I believe in God. I am a Christian. God sent his son to die on the cross for me, to take my punishment that I deserved, and through faith and trust in Christ, I have eternal life. Without Christ, you will be eternally separated from God in Hell.

We all have sinned, made mistakes, but if we confess them to God and ask Him to forgive us, believe and trust in his Son, Jesus Christ, you will be saved.

Read it in the Bible for yourself:

Romans 3:23
Romans 6:23
Romans 5:8
Romans 10:8-9

There is no other way in which a person can be saved, turn from your sins and believe the Gospel.
Amen

Do any of you believe in God?

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