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Cote de Boeuf

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Originally Posted by Manton
Take some of the pure fat from the scraps and render it. You probably will not need all of it, as rib steaks can contain a lot of fat. Then throw in the meat scraps and get them good and brown. Then add chopped carrots, celery and onion (2x as many carrots as onion & celery). Tomato paste is optional. Then add liquid. Stock is nice. Glace is better, but somewhat wasteful. Demi-glace is decadent, but unlikely to be lying around. Wine also works. NEVER add store beef stock. If you don't have real beef or veal stock, better to use store chicken stock and brandy (1:1). Sounds odd, but it works. Simmer for a long time. Strain. Reduce. Put it in the pan after the steak is done. Scrape up all the fond. Add the juice from the plate where the steak is resting. Whisk on high heat briefly. Optional: pour into small saucepan and reduce some more.

Would it be crazy/wrong/purposeless to add a tablespoon of butter at the whisking stage?
 

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Originally Posted by romafan
Would it be crazy/wrong/purposeless to add a tablespoon of butter at the whisking stage?

No
 

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Originally Posted by jpeirpont
Where do you get your meat?

My local market has a dry aging locker. Pretty unusual; lucky for me.
 

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Originally Posted by grimslade
Awesome. I'll bring the wine.

Bordeaux or CA cab, at least ten years old, please.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
My local market has a dry aging locker. Pretty unusual; lucky for me.

Have you ever had Whole Foods beef (which I believe is dry aged)? If so where would you rate it?
 

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Originally Posted by jpeirpont
Have you ever had Whole Foods beef (which I believe is dry aged)? If so where would you rate it?

I used to get Whole Foods beef in DC. I am not sure if they have the same providers everywhere. Anyway, there were several different grades, one of which was aged. I thought the strip steaks were great. I don't remember ever seeing a bone-in rib steak there. The boneless ribeye was not as good, or at least I did not like it as much. It was sort of flabby.

Also, the aged beef I can get locally now is Prime; the Whole Foods stuff was only Choice. The highest grade of Choice, but still ...
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
Bordeaux or CA cab, at least ten years old, please.

Will you take 2000 St. Estephe? It was a good year...
 

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It will be a cold day in hell when I call a ribeye a "Cote de Boeuf", make it in a pan and serve it with any kind sauce.


Those in NYC (Roma), please go to Florence Meat on Jones St. for one of the best butchers here and at prices that are just awesome.


For the big hitters like Coho, order from Brian Flannery, he just opened a website and sells what is considered by many to be the best beef in the good ole USA.
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
For the big hitters like Coho, order from Brian Flannery, he just opened a website and sells what is considered by many to be the best beef in the good ole USA.
I thought Omaha Steaks sold the best meat.
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
It will be a cold day in hell when I call a ribeye a "Cote de Boeuf", make it in a pan and serve it with any kind sauce.

When it is trimmed like that, that is what it is called. Don't blame me.

What anyone could have against a pan seared steak with sauce is beyond me. Tastes better than a gas grill, that's for sure.
 

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Originally Posted by Manton
When it is trimmed like that, that is what it is called. Don't blame me.

What anyone could have against a pan seared steak with sauce is beyond me. Tastes better than a gas grill, that's for sure.


Gas grill???? Why don't you just say something bad about my mother while you are at it. Pan searing is fine if you can't hardwood charcoal grill outdoors. The smoke and smell of indoor searing is not for everyone.
 

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Originally Posted by edmorel
Gas grill???? Why don't you just say something bad about my mother while you are at it. Pan searing is fine if you can't hardwood charcoal grill outdoors. The smoke and smell of indoor searing is not for everyone.

Pan searing has been around for as long as cooking, and a lot of great chefs and great restaurants do it every day. Charcoal is great, but it imparts a different flavor. I would not use a sauce for a charcoal grilled steak, but I am not anti-sauce across the board, to say the least. I don't subscribe to this notion that sauce is only necessary/acceptable for bad meat.
 

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