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Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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L to R: QE2->German/Scottish, FrenchyPM->Hungarian/Greek, Hottie->Italian/Brazilian (not that Brazilian narrows things down), Harrumpher->Greek/Danish. Overall, in this group of four: very little Anglo-Saxon or French blood, unless we look past to the Beefeaters. - B
See how she's looking at old Phil and not Nick..? ...she's planing to boot Liz outta Buck house and to move in with Phil. She's a wily one... Oh, and you do realise that Germany only came into existence in 1871? George I was the Elector of Hanover.

Originally Posted by George

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Oh, and you do realise that Germany only came into existence in 1871?

George I was the Elector of Hanover.

Ten years after the Italians.

Only a few countries have been intact and around as long as the United States of America. This is because we know what we are doing.


- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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Ten years after the Italians. Only a few countries have been intact and around as long as the United States of America. This is because we know what we are doing. - B
I sleep safe in my bed knowing that Uncle Sam has things firmly under control.

Originally Posted by George

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I sleep safe in my bed knowing that Uncle Sam has things firmly under control.

We'll consult with you as needed.


- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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We'll consult with you as needed. - B
...don't forget the French. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247

Originally Posted by George

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...don't forget the French.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247

I keep on forgetting that Cameron is your PM.

I bet that you wish that you had my problem.


- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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I keep on forgetting that Cameron is your PM. I bet that you wish that you had my problem. - B
...doesn't really matter who's in the big house, the games up.

Originally Posted by George

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...don't forget the French.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247

George my boy ,our nations are too skint to develop their own little nukes ...

We're in second division..

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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L to R: QE2->German/Scottish, FrenchyPM->Hungarian/Greek, Hottie->Italian/Brazilian (not that Brazilian narrows things down), Harrumpher->Greek/Danish.

Overall, in this group of four: very little Anglo-Saxon or French blood, unless we look past to the Beefeaters.


- B

At the risk of being even more politically incorrect, all of the above are European, and dare
I say, Christian, except Sarkozy, who has some Jewish forbearers. The extensive press coverage
of the problem of integrating non European, particularly Muslim, immigrant populations in France,
the UK, Germany, Scandanavia, the Netherlands, Italy Spain, etc., into societies which heretofore
had little immigration gives the lie to the the idea of heterogeneous ethnic harmony in Western Europe.
It's actually a crisis that is awakening the dormant fascistic tendencies, in these host
countries. Even the US with a long history of immigration and an ethos as a self-described
"country of immigrants" is experiencing a negative political reaction on the Right to the
influx of immigrants, largely from Latin America, and therefore "European"and "Christian"
and more easily integrated into the existing society.

Originally Posted by lasbar

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George my boy ,our nations are too skint to develop their own little nukes ...

We're in second division..

I think our boys in the UK armed services will be champing at the bit.
Just think; two hour lunch breaks (with a marked improvement in ration packs), shorter working week with better union representation, more time off for looking at french por...sorry arthouse cinema and discussing existential philosophy.

The Pièce de rà sistance? The ability to strike willy nilly because someone looked at you "a bit funny".

Originally Posted by comrade

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At the risk of being even more politically incorrect, all of the above are European, and dare
I say, Christian, except Sarkozy, who has some Jewish forbearers. The extensive press coverage
of the problem of integrating non European, particularly Muslim, immigrant populations in France,
the UK, Germany, Scandanavia, the Netherlands, Italy Spain, etc., into societies which heretofore
had little immigration gives the lie to the the idea of heterogeneous ethnic harmony in Western Europe.
It's actually a crisis that is awakening the dormant fascistic tendencies, in these host
countries. Even the US with a long history of immigration and an ethos as a self-described
"country of immigrants" is experiencing a negative political reaction on the Right to the
influx of immigrants, largely from Latin America, and therefore "European"and "Christian"
and more easily integrated into the existing society.

Originally Posted by comrade

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At the risk of being even more politically incorrect, all of the above are European, and dare
I say, Christian, except Sarkozy, who has some Jewish forbearers. The extensive press coverage
of the problem of integrating non European, particularly Muslim, immigrant populations in France,
the UK, Germany, Scandanavia, the Netherlands, Italy Spain, etc., into societies which heretofore
had little immigration gives the lie to the the idea of heterogeneous ethnic harmony in Western Europe.
It's actually a crisis that is awakening the dormant fascistic tendencies, in these host
countries. Even the US with a long history of immigration and an ethos as a self-described
"country of immigrants" is experiencing a negative political reaction on the Right to the
influx of immigrants, largely from Latin America, and therefore "European"and "Christian"
and more easily integrated into the existing society.

Before we begin to panic, we might want to note that before WWII, there were anti-immigrants (Italian workers) riots in the south of France ("They are taking our jobs from us..."). Now there are many Italian surnames in France and no-one bats an eye. Later came waves of Spaniards and Portuguese. Many Poles came to work in the mines between the wars. Does anyone notice when they see that a Mr. or Ms. Gonzalez or Santos is their banker or insurance agent? Of course not. I would bet that in one, or two, generations at most, the same will happen to North Africans. As a matter of fact, it is happening already.
The difficulty now is mostly with young people, who have no real tie to the "Old Country" (they probably do not speak the language and might never have set foot there) who are still perceived as "foreign". The fact that the educational system, by and large, has failed them as a group, and that urban planning, or rather lack thereof, has consigned to "ghettoes" makes their integration more difficult. The overwhelming majority only wants what they see as "the Good Life" of the native middle class. They will grow into adults, and provided there are enough jobs, they will settle down, intermarry and no one will remember that they were once thought of as "dangerous" or strange.
Somebody said that the French language is derived from late, vulgar, Latin, spoken with a Germanic accent. All European countries, to some extent, are the product of many waves of immigration. I do not mean to deny that the transition to integration is an uncomfortable process for all, but let us keep a historical perspective.
To go back to tailoring, SR suits have long been made by immigrants: the Meyers, Schweitzers etc... of Brummell's days (and those already were established, with their own firms) were replaced by waves of immigrants from continental Europe, following upheavals and revolutions, the there were eastern and central European Jews in the late XIXth C, etc...Nowadays, it is a rare SR workshop which does not have at least some workers of Caribbean or African, or Asian origin.
Are we not moving too far from the subject of this thread?
Frog in Suit

Originally Posted by Infrasonic

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I think our boys in the UK armed services will be champing at the bit.
Just think; two hour lunch breaks (with a marked improvement in ration packs), shorter working week with better union representation, more time off for looking at french por...sorry arthouse cinema and discussing existential philosophy.

The Pièce de rÃ

sistance? The ability to strike willy nilly because someone looked at you "a bit funny".


Might be an improvement from getting systematically blotto for fun all the time...More variety, after all...
Frog in Suit

Originally Posted by Frog in Suit

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Before we begin to panic, we might want to note that before WWII, there were anti-immigrants (Italian workers) riots in the south of France ("They are taking our jobs from us...").

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Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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L to R: QE2->German/Scottish, FrenchyPM->Hungarian/Greek, Hottie->Italian/Brazilian (not that Brazilian narrows things down), Harrumpher->Greek/Danish.

Overall, in this group of four: very little Anglo-Saxon or French blood, unless we look past to the Beefeaters.


- B

Remind me again of where the Angles and the Saxons came from and where, beside Britain, they and their decesndants migrated to?

Rob