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What's the big deal with "hand made"?

mack11211

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Let us separate hand made from custom made.

Custom clothing is handmade often but not always, and there is no absolute requirement for it to be so. (Insert longrunning debate over 'bespoke' definitions here.)

The OP is asking about handmade RTW.

In most cases, as Doc suggests, it is just a fetish.

However, there are certain tailoring details that make a garment look better and hold its shape better that can, AFAIK, only be done by hand. I'm thinking of all the tiny stitches on the underside of a lapel, for instance. Also, I believe there is some stitching at the shoulder for instance, that make it fit best and last longer, and that is best done with different frequencies of stitches in different areas. Perhaps this is hard to do with a machine.

But in most cases, I think we just like hand work because we like the way it looks, and because we enjoy supporting the artisans who make it.
 

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Originally Posted by ferguscan
** You are confusing design with physical production, IMO. Of course a human is best at design, be it bespoke or RTW. But for most manufactured goods, machines (properly informed of the design) are better at physical production.

Qualitatively Better? Doubtful- More efficient? Absolutely. A skilled craftsman with the best tools at his disposal can build a motor that rivals any that rolls of the assembly line. But it will take him ages.
 

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Originally Posted by mack11211
The OP is asking about handmade RTW.

Originally Posted by Cary Grant
If you have no passion/understanding of the value of individuality, craftasmanship, uniqueness, aesthetics, then there's little more to say.

I think CG's words relate to more than just bespoke. But that's just me.
 

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Originally Posted by Cary Grant
I'd add also that it really is something you likely appreciate across other areas, too. For example, restaurants- I'd really much rather go to my little neighborhood bistro where we know the owner and the kitchen staff, where they source most things locally and make everything to order than to any of the chains nearby.

I like being able to remember the face of the people who have made my clothing. I like that I know some of there personal stories.
 

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Originally Posted by A Guy from Shanghai
Depends whether "hand made" is by a pair of virgin's hands or a pair of filthy guy's hands that being used to masturbate himself frequently and vigorously.

Most ppl masturbate once a while. Virgins musturbate frequently cos they dont get sex.
 

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Originally Posted by A Guy from Shanghai
Depends whether "hand made" is by a pair of virgin's hands or a pair of filthy guy's hands that being used to masturbate himself frequently and vigorously.

A couple of years ago, I referred a friend of mine to a tailor near Union Square.

My friend went with some clothes to be altered. The old tailors I knew were gone; they'd sold their business to the new guy.

When my friend went back, open door, heard no one, looked around a corner, found the new guy at his computer.

Appreciation on the screen.

No further visits.
 

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Here is a somewhat long video showing what I guess would be low to mid-range bespoke. It has machine sewn seams and button holes but also some hand work. I found the computer (CAD) pattern making and the pressing interesting. If this has been previously posted I apologize.
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