What exactly is a trophy wife?

[Tokyo Slim]

Originally Posted by iammatt

I know quite a few "trophy wives". Some are very pleasant and some are pains **********. You know, just like the rest of the people in the world.

Matt is a trophy wife.

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by Pink22m

She was actually quite sexy, although I wouldn't have done anything with her without wearing two or three condoms at once. She wasn't white either; she was actually Asian (I believe Vietnamese).

I realize that you're partly using this as an expression, but wearing more than one condom at a time actually increases the probability of breakage.

Originally Posted by Piobaire

LOL, yeah, a year or two yet before the wrinkles set in

I'd never do the trophy wife thing, even if I was much wealthier than I am, but if I was that old, wrinkly, wealthy guy, not only would I toss her to the curb, if the guy knew she were married, I'd use some of my money to make his life hell

I think the big post above nailed the whole trophy wife thing quite well. It is much better to marry an intellectual, and hopefully income, equal. I would go crazy if I married a vapid woman with too much time on her hands. I think all the extra free time is probably what makes the trophy infidelity rate probably pretty high.

I essentially agree. One of the good things about being a man is that you can always get a younger woman, whereas it's a lot harder for a woman to score a younger man. A lot of women will have no problems going out with an older man as long as they're physically attractive and still in good shape. A successful and well-preserved 45 year old should have little problems dating women that are 30 imo. They don't have to be morons and they won't necessarily be datnig the older guy for his money.

 

[Coho]

Of course! I have met quite a few non-white trophies actually. Most are Asian and a few are Latinos as I live in Cali. Sadly, I have seen very few black trophy wifes. As I am mix, I won't mind a trophie wife of mixed heritage. I have a thing for Brazilians.

Anyone who goes for a fully blonde in the 21st century is lacking taste. They have become too pedestrian for me. In fact, I think the preference for blonds is the preference of uneducated men of limited means.

If I could have it my way, this would be my mistress:

Originally Posted by lee_44106

Can a trophy wife be non-white?

 

[Brian278]

Originally Posted by TyCooN

Wouldn't she get half of your money?

Everyone knows that trophy wife=madatory pre-nup for anybody who knows what they're doing. Even the trophy, I would imagine.

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by Coho

Of course! I have met quite a few non-white trophies actually. Most are Asian and a few are Latinos as I live in Cali. Sadly, I have seen very few black trophy wifes. As I am mix, I won't mind a trophie wife of mixed heritage. I have a thing for Brazilians.

Anyone who goes for a fully blonde in the 21st century is lacking taste. They have become too pedestrian for me. In fact, I think the preference for blonds is the preference of uneducated men of limited means.

If I could have it my way, this would be my mistress:

hell yes!!

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by Brian278

Everyone knows that trophy wife=madatory pre-nup for anybody who knows what they're doing. Even the trophy, I would imagine.

We discussed this a while ago with the lawyers. It doesn't really protect you 100%.

 

[Coho]

exactly. In fact, I'd marry her on international waters so our marriage would be unofficial (Howard Hughes did this). She would never know. And if you "have" to marry her, I'd advice a bullet proof pre-nup. I'd like to support her only while she's working for me so the benefits become mutual.

Originally Posted by Brian278

Everyone knows that trophy wife=madatory pre-nup for anybody who knows what they're doing. Even the trophy, I would imagine.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I hear what you are saying Matt, and there's nothing intrinsically wrong with being a trophy wife, IMO. It is just that many people have a hard time taking a person with that job description seriously. Some enterprising lawyer is going to sue under the EEOC one day when an aging trophy wife turns 40 and gets replaced with a newer model.
Well, like all things that cost, you get what you can pay for.

Most of the wives I am thinking of are not attached to a guy with a couple million dollars and a bad comb over. These are smart, educated women whose husbands are worth a couple of hundred million. They make good conversation, are interesting and informed, throw nice parties and have nice, soft, pillowy racks. Typically they are young to mid forties and attached to guys in their sixties. They happen to spend a lot of time at the spa and the golf club, but if that is OK with them and their husbands, I see no shame in that.

On the other hand, there are some really awful ones out there too.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by TyCooN

Wouldn't she get half of your money?

Three words: prenup from hell.

 

[Coho]

Yeah, but it would have to be somewhat lucrative for her to give you monopoly over her pu$$y. What that means is that you have to settle on terms that she "thinks" are acceptable.

You don't have to give her half of your fortune, but you will have to give her something.

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Three words: prenup from hell.

 

[c3cubed]

[QUOTE=A Canuker;840919]Sure we have all read this before but its a classic:

New York Woman Posts Ad To Marry Wealthy Man
Popular website, criagslist, recieved this post
This ad appeared on craigslist.com:

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.
I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.


The response:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.[/quote]

Yes - I read this with amusement a few years back and it is indeed a classic, and absolutely true. Curiously, I read somewhere that 72% of New Yorkers are not actually married. While I'm not sure of the source of that data, I wouldn't be surprised considering the amount of wealth in that city. The cost of divorce would destroy many fortunes. Common-Law marriage may not be as destructive in the end, but in the end it seems far less expensive to just have a good time with the pretty young things.

Either way, you pay. One can find a very high-end and professional, favourite lady escort to match your exacting specifications and she can fit the bill just as easily, with no strings attached when the day is over and in this, may turn out to be a more economical proposition.

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by iammatt

Well, like all things that cost, you get what you can pay for.

Most of the wives I am thinking of are not attached to a guy with a couple million dollars and a bad comb over. These are smart, educated women whose husbands are worth a couple of hundred million. They make good conversation, are interesting and informed, throw nice parties and have nice, soft, pillowy racks. Typically they are young to mid forties and attached to guys in their sixties. They happen to spend a lot of time at the spa and the golf club, but if that is OK with them and their husbands, I see no shame in that.

On the other hand, there are some really awful ones out there too.

I think the above moves out of trophy wife status. I rub elbows with the mega-rich and the wife is often as much event co-ordinator and PR firm as spouse. She has a job. When I think trophy, I think of someone that brings pretty much nothing but looks and serves no real use. I have come to fully understand the organization required to make a marriage work when you are mega-wealthy couple and engaged in various social, business, and philanthropic endeavors.

I will never be mega-wealthy, already married to a woman just a few years younger than me, and she has her own thriving career. I guess this whole conversation is totally academic for me

 

[Coho]

Okay, since this is purely an academic discourse for you, mind if I ask how much of your net worth she would take with her should the two of you encounter, eh, marital problems?

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I think the above moves out of trophy wife status. I rub elbows with the mega-rich and the wife is often as much event co-ordinator and PR firm as spouse. She has a job. When I think trophy, I think of someone that brings pretty much nothing but looks and serves no real use. I have come to fully understand the organization required to make a marriage work when you are mega-wealthy couple and engaged in various social, business, and philanthropic endeavors.

I will never be mega-wealthy, already married to a woman just a few years younger than me, and she has her own thriving career. I guess this whole conversation is totally academic for me

 

[GQgeek]

Originally Posted by c3cubed

[QUOTE=A Canuker;840919]Sure we have all read this before but its a classic:

New York Woman Posts Ad To Marry Wealthy Man
Popular website, criagslist, recieved this post
This ad appeared on craigslist.com:

What am I doing wrong?

Okay, I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm a beautiful (spectacularly beautiful) 25 year old girl. I'm articulate and classy.
I'm not from New York. I'm looking to get married to a guy who makes at least half a million a year. I know how that sounds, but keep in mind that a million a year is middle class in New York City, so I don't think I'm overreaching at all.

Are there any guys who make 500K or more on this board? Any wives? Could you send me some tips? I dated a business man who makes average around 200 - 250. But that's where I seem to hit a roadblock. 250,000 won't get me to central park west. I know a woman in my yoga class who was married to an investment banker and lives in Tribeca, and she's not as pretty as I am, nor is she a great genius. So what is she doing right? How do I get to her level?

Here are my questions specifically:

- Where do you single rich men hang out? Give me specifics- bars, restaurants, gyms

-What are you looking for in a mate? Be honest guys, you won't hurt my feelings

-Is there an age range I should be targeting (I'm 25)?

- Why are some of the women living lavish lifestyles on the upper east side so plain? I've seen really 'plain jane' boring types who have nothing to offer married to incredibly wealthy guys. I've seen drop dead gorgeous girls in singles bars in the east village. What's the story there?

- Jobs I should look out for? Everyone knows - lawyer, investment banker, doctor. How much do those guys really make? And where do they hang out? Where do the hedge fund guys hang out?

- How you decide marriage vs. just a girlfriend? I am looking for MARRIAGE ONLY

Please hold your insults - I'm putting myself out there in an honest way. Most beautiful women are superficial; at least I'm being up front about it. I wouldn't be searching for these kind of guys if I wasn't able to match them - in looks, culture, sophistication, and keeping a nice home and hearth.


The response:

I read your posting with great interest and have thought meaningfully about your dilemma. I offer the following analysis of your predicament.
Firstly, I'm not wasting your time, I qualify as a guy who fits your bill; that is I make more than $500K per year. That said here's how I see it.

Your offer, from the prospective of a guy like me, is plain and simple a crappy business deal. Here's why. Cutting through all the B.S., what you suggest is a simple trade: you bring your looks to the party and I bring my money. Fine, simple. But here's the rub, your looks will fade and my money will likely continue into perpetuity...in fact, it is very likely that my income increases but it is an absolute certainty that you won't be getting any more beautiful!

So, in economic terms you are a depreciating asset and I am an earning asset. Not only are you a depreciating asset, your depreciation accelerates! Let me explain, you're 25 now and will likely stay pretty hot for the next 5 years, but less so each year. Then the fade begins in earnest. By 35 stick a fork in you!

So in Wall Street terms, we would call you a trading position, not a buy and hold...hence the rub...marriage. It doesn't make good business sense to "buy you" (which is what you're asking) so I'd rather lease. In case you think I'm being cruel, I would say the following. If my money were to go away, so would you, so when your beauty fades I need an out. It's as simple as that. So a deal that makes sense is dating, not marriage.

Separately, I was taught early in my career about efficient markets. So, I wonder why a girl as "articulate, classy and spectacularly beautiful"
as you has been unable to find your sugar daddy. I find it hard to believe that if you are as gorgeous as you say you are that the $500K hasn't found you, if not only for a tryout.

By the way, you could always find a way to make your own money and then we wouldn't need to have this difficult conversation.

With all that said, I must say you're going about it the right way.
Classic "pump and dump." I hope this is helpful, and if you want to enter into some sort of lease, let me know.


Yes - I read this with amusement a few years back and it is indeed a classic, and absolutely true. Curiously, I read somewhere that 72% of New Yorkers are not actually married. While I'm not sure of the source of that data, I wouldn't be surprised considering the amount of wealth in that city. The cost of divorce would destroy many fortunes. Common-Law marriage may not be as destructive in the end, but in the end it seems far less expensive to just have a good time with the pretty young things.

Either way, you pay. One can find a very high-end and professional, favourite lady escort to match your exacting specifications and she can fit the bill just as easily, with no strings attached when the day is over and in this, may turn out to be a more economical proposition.[/quote]

Mat posted a great article on this subject. The conclusion? If it flys, *****, or floats, you're better off renting.

 

[Coho]

No ****! Plus, I hear that men who have children in their golden days (I'd say past 40) tend to live longer. I read this from an established source.

[/quote]Mat posted a great article on this subject. The conclusion? If it flys, *****, or floats, you're better off renting.

[/quote]