What can Kobe/Lebron do to surpass Jordan?

[Interzone]

Originally Posted by RFX45

@ thinking he can just back MJ up and then dunk every time. Maybe if MJ were 12 yrs old. Lebron is strong for his size but he isn't overly huge compared to MJ, and MJ isn't exactly weak in his prime either. Plus MJ isn't dumb enough to let Lebron do that all the time, he may get away with it once but no way he pulls that move off twice.

I don't even think Lebron can do that on CP3 every time.

You might not notice it in the pictures, but I've seen LeBron live and he is a massive dude. Kobe looks small next to him.

 

[word]

Originally Posted by Butter

Is it possible?

no

 

[RFX45]

Originally Posted by Interzone

You might not notice it in the pictures, but I've seen LeBron live and he is a massive dude. Kobe looks small next to him.

I've seen Lebron live, practically stood next to him too and he is huge (I'm 5'10") but MJ isn't the smallest guy in the world. And to anyone who has played basketball knows that posting up takes make than size and strength and you sure as hell can't just back someone up and dunk if you only have a 2 inch advantage. MJ isn't exactly a push over in his prime, he was pretty strong for his size too.

 

[Interzone]

Originally Posted by RFX45

I've seen Lebron live, practically stood next to him too and he is huge (I'm 5'10") but MJ isn't the smallest guy in the world. And to anyone who has played basketball knows that posting up takes make than size and strength and you sure as hell can't just back someone up and dunk if you only have a 2 inch advantage. MJ isn't exactly a push over in his prime, he was pretty strong for his size too.

I'm not playing the marsupialed comparison game, so I don't care who's stronger or better. I'm just saying that LeBron is a much bigger player than Kobe, who I assume is similar in size to Mike, so it's a bit disingenous to say that LeBron "only" has a 2 inch advantage.

 

[Suave]

jordan actually looked down upon lebron and hated on him for joining the heat with wade and bosh

he said that back in his day, he played against his top opponents (magic, bird, etc.) to findout who was superior, not try to join a team with them

hey, i mean lebron just wants a ring, and he didn't have a chance in clevland, so i understand his decision, i guess. . .

lebron will never amount to jordan, and kobe can with 3 more rings (consecutively)

 

[Tokyo Slim]

 

[RFX45]

Originally Posted by Interzone

I'm not playing the marsupialed comparison game, so I don't care who's stronger or better. I'm just saying that LeBron is a much bigger player than Kobe, who I assume is similar in size to Mike, so it's a bit disingenous to say that LeBron "only" has a 2 inch advantage.

If you are not comparing strengths, then what is the point of saying that Lebrons (6'8") looks massive compared to Kobe (6'6")? Fact is he does only have a 2" height advantage but is stronger, but that isn't all there is in a one on one game unless you are overwhelmingly taller and stronger.

And Carmelo is the same size as Lebron but Kobe managed to handle guarding him, Kobe managed to guard Lebron too despite his strength advantage. For people to think Lebron can just back him up and dunk to win a one on one game against MJ or Kobe is ridiculous.

 

[thekunk07]

better

Originally Posted by The Deacon

DURANT AND GEORGE GERVIN

 

[thekunk07]

neither were arguably the best at their positions unless you just like to argue.

Originally Posted by Johdus Fanfoozal

Silly to do this considering Magic and Barkley were the most unique players ever to bounce a ball: a 6'9" PG and a 6'4" PF who are arguably the best ever at their positions. There have never been players like them before or since.

 

[thekunk07]

thx, had no idea. <eye roll>

Originally Posted by ohm

um, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobe_Br...l_assault_case




It's not if he should have left, it's how he should have left and where he should have gone to.

For what it's worth, I think we're unlikely to ever again see anyone with the same combination of talent and will to destroy that Jordan had.

 

[dunga]

Buy and then crash the Maclaren

 

[Butter]

Originally Posted by Interzone

You might not notice it in the pictures, but I've seen LeBron live and he is a massive dude. Kobe looks small next to him.

Sure he is but you guys are underestimating Kobe's strength.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7z67...eature=related

The guy pushed Lebron back and then faded.

 

[Interzone]

RFX45, you really need to reread my post. I'm not comparing their games. For one, I know that LeBron doesn't have any semblance of a post game, so stop already. I'm simply responding to your statement that LeBron &quot;isn't overly huge compared to MJ.&quot; I've been to a few dozen Lakers game over the last several years, and I've seen LeBron and Kobe side-by-side. LeBron is a much bigger player. That is all.

 

[runner-guy]

If Kobe wins another 1-2 titles, he will definitely be in the same conversation as Jordan. Lebron will never come close. If he was close to Jordan, he would have won at least 2 titles already.

 

[Unbreakable]

Originally Posted by runner-guy

If Kobe wins another 1-2 titles, he will definitely be in the same conversation as Jordan. Lebron will never come close. If he was close to Jordan, he would have won at least 2 titles already.

Originally Posted by Shopparel

Neither will reach the level Jordan did. Lebron will never even be said in the same sentence due to the fact that he is on Wade's team now.
If Jordan, Kobe, and Lebron were all planets in the solar system, Kobe and Lebron can be called Pluto, not good enough to be considered a planet, but still something. I couldnt care less about Kobe, and Lebron was ok before the sold out. Id like for him to never win a title, but thats just me. I'd love to see a 1v1, Jordan now vs either, make it take it XD