What can Kobe/Lebron do to surpass Jordan?

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  1. nate10184

    nate10184 Senior member

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    I'm a Laker fan and I'll say that Kobe will never "pass" Jordan. Jordan was more dominant, by far. Kobe might end up with a more impressive career, due to longevity and starting at 17, but he wasn't at the same level. Kobe absolutely maxed out his potential, developed all of his skills and fully exploited his talents, but he wasn't as physically gifted as Jordan v. the League. If Kobe had Vince Carter's body and explosion with his own mind and attitude, he could have surpassed Jordan.

    Lebron could pass Jordan if he lives up to his potential. He's such a freak - he has Magic's skill set with Karl Malone's body. Not sure if he has the the right mindset to reach his full potential.


    This is dead on. I really don't think it matters how many Kobe wins because the eye test will always tell you Jordan is better. The way he moved on the court was just unique, Kobe has flashes but its not as polished overall. Kobe is a great player but it's never been clear cut that he's even the best player in the league. Jordan was head and shoulders above anyone from his era, he was the NBA in the 90s.

    I like Kobe and I'm not a huge fan of Jordan as a person but this argument is only taking place because the Lakers are currently at the top of their game. In 20 years Jordan will still be the benchmark, Kobe will be added to the "everyone else" bucket with Bird, Magic, Wilt, Dr. J etc.
     


  2. frenchy

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    This is dead on. I really don't think it matters how many Kobe wins because the eye test will always tell you Jordan is better. The way he moved on the court was just unique, Kobe has flashes but its not as polished overall. Kobe is a great player but it's never been clear cut that he's even the best player in the league. Jordan was head and shoulders above anyone from his era, he was the NBA in the 90s.

    I like Kobe and I'm not a huge fan of Jordan as a person but this argument is only taking place because the Lakers are currently at the top of their game. In 20 years Jordan will still be the benchmark, Kobe will be added to the "everyone else" bucket with Bird, Magic, Wilt, Dr. J etc.


    i dont know but i think LeBron could take the Jordan of the 90's on one on one,just too big
     


  3. Hombre Secreto

    Hombre Secreto Senior member

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    i dont know but i think LeBron could take the Jordan of the 90's on one on one,just too big
    Bron has the heart of a hummingbird. Jordan would of destroyed his young psyche and he would of never recovered.
     


  4. ConcernedParent

    ConcernedParent Senior member

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    Right...

    It's not like Jordan had any legit all stars and a HOF on his teams. [​IMG]


    Jordan never had a Shaq and Scotten Pippen is not Dwayne Wade.
     


  5. rjakapeanut

    rjakapeanut Senior member

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    it's not just about championships/epic games. it's about your legacy as a whole.

    it's unlikely imo that anyone will ever have the kind of legacy jordan had, even if someone like kobe ends up with 2-3 more rings/epic games etc.
     


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    scientific Senior member

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    nothing. jordan was an icon
     


  7. Tokyo Slim

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    ...Get a World Series, or maybe a Superbowl ring to go along with six or seven NBA Championships.

    You aren't going to surpass him in basketball, so you might as well try and get as close as you can, and then beat his pants off in Baseball.
     


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    nothing. jordan was an icon
    All that needed to be said.
     


  9. MetroStyles

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    nothing. jordan was an icon

    True that, son.

    but as far as a closer... I would take Kobe. Bryant has been more of an assassin than Jordan ever was.

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    Oh man, you had me dying there for a second. How old are you, 18?
     


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    This is dead on. I really don't think it matters how many Kobe wins because the eye test will always tell you Jordan is better. The way he moved on the court was just unique, Kobe has flashes but its not as polished overall. Kobe is a great player but it's never been clear cut that he's even the best player in the league. Jordan was head and shoulders above anyone from his era, he was the NBA in the 90s.

    I like Kobe and I'm not a huge fan of Jordan as a person but this argument is only taking place because the Lakers are currently at the top of their game. In 20 years Jordan will still be the benchmark, Kobe will be added to the "everyone else" bucket with Bird, Magic, Wilt, Dr. J etc.


    Agreed.

    Lebron- Nothing. unless he starts another marketing firm and markets himself as a Jordan.
     


  11. MetroStyles

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    Agreed.

    Lebron- Nothing. unless he starts another marketing firm and markets himself as a Jordan.


    Not true. If Wade and Bosh sustain career-ending injuries and LeBron leads the hapless Heat to 10 championships in a row, all while becoming America's greatest humanitarian and apologizing for his sins, he will be in the same conversation as Jordan. Just sayin'. [​IMG]
     


  12. FLMountainMan

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    kobe, another ring or 2.

    lebron, nothing


    This.
     


  13. thekunk07

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    this is laughable. I lol'd.

    Scary to think Kobe could of had 7 rings by now. I think Jordan will always be the best guard, but as far as a closer... I would take Kobe. Bryant has been more of an assassin than Jordan ever was.

    And if it wasn't for that choke artist Malone... Jordan would only have 5 rings. The Jazz should of beating the Bulls in their last run.
     


  14. Blackfyre

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    kobes mindset and skills combined with lebrons body.
    now that beast could pass jordan. otherwise nothing.
     


  15. thekunk07

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    btw, kobe is a better human than MJ who really is/was a piece of shit
     


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