Tom Mahon: An Englishcut in New York

[greger]

No video?

 

[jefferyd]

Originally Posted by Montauk

. I gather that the bespoke world has a lot of that going around...

He makes a few other dubious claims about RTW makers on his blog. And as I said before....

RTW admittedly has many faults. Using old patterns is not one of them.

 

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by greger

No video?

It was so dark that any video would have been unwatchable. I felt bad enough taking a couple flash photos.

Were there any other forumites there?

 

[greger]

Originally Posted by jefferyd

Mr. Mahon should refrain from commenting on things about which he clearly has no knowledge.

Sounds more like he is purposely putting out misinformation. By the time I was four or five I knew about fittings. If tailors are the best at making personal patterns and they need fittings, then what at the store doesn't need fittings? The fact that he uses methods that go back 80 year, what manufacture uses a pattern system that old? And he talks like his is newer?

Mahon sounds like a fox at putting out misinformation.

 

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by jefferyd

RTW admittedly has many faults. Using old patterns is not one of them.

Fair enough. Given the post-Snackwells fit of most low-end RTW, I'm inclined to agree.

But what would bespoke be without cheapshots at RTW? That's at least part of what one pays for. ;-)

 

[Montauk]

Originally Posted by greger

By the time I was four or five I knew about fittings.

Thank you for that. How old are you now? I'd wait until you stop growing to really invest in bespoke.

Originally Posted by greger

If tailors are the best at making personal patterns and they need fittings, then what at the store doesn't need fittings?

 

[TRINI]

Originally Posted by greger

Sounds more like he is purposely putting out misinformation. By the time I was four or five I knew about fittings. If tailors are the best at making personal patterns and they need fittings, then what at the store doesn't need fittings? The fact that he uses methods that go back 80 year, what manufacture uses a pattern system that old? And he talks like his is newer?

Mahon sounds like a fox at putting out misinformation.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[greger]

Originally Posted by Montauk

Fair enough. Given the post-Snackwells fit of most low-end RTW, I'm inclined to agree.

But what would bespoke be without cheapshots at RTW? That's at least part of what one pays for. ;-)

A good question for you to think about is if tailors are so good and they are making personal patterns with personal measurements, why do they have fittings?

RTW makes generic. That means they are trying to fit reasonable as many people as they can with out fittings or much of a fitting. That means they are always updateing there patterns to meet those needs.

Tailors take fitting much farther, at least they should than what a alterations tailor can do. And you pay for that extra skill.

 

[teddieriley]

Originally Posted by greger

A good question for you to think about is if tailors are so good and they are making personal patterns with personal measurements, why do they have fittings?

No. It's a horrible question. I'm better served thinking when my next sh!t will be.

 

[CunningSmeagol]

Originally Posted by greger

A good question for you to think about is if tailors are so good and they are making personal patterns with personal measurements, why do they have fittings?

OJFC. Leave the forum now.

 

[greger]

Originally Posted by Montauk

Thank you for that. How old are you now? I'd wait until you stop growing to really invest in bespoke.

Past the 50 mark nowadays.

What knowledge I have, which isn't much, is because there is some family tailoring history in it. In the past, when there were many tailors, they put out a lot of chaff with little bit of wheat. It was competitive and they didn't want home sewers to make slopy clothes, but good enough not to come to the tailor. And every tailor has his own opinions he doesn't want other tailors to know to much about, secrets. I try to be open minded. Some tmes I look through a lot of chaff to find one grain of wheat. Tailors are masters at giving a partically correct answers, or an answer that solves one problem but creates another. Keep the witless going around in circles.

 

[Montauk]

I'm sorry greger, but your posts appear to be constructed primarily from mistranslated sartorially-themed fortune cookies.

 

[TRINI]

........sorry, that was mean.

 

[greger]

Well guys, If you ever try to make and fit a coat you wll discover the complexities of the human body. A little bit different and a seam should be move a little to match, or a little shaping with the iron, and so on. When at a beach or pool take a look at the different slopes of shoulders and how much shoulder blades stick out and chest that juts out or flat and so on with your fellow peers. There is much for a tailor to consider when he is looking at you. Sometimes some guess work there.

 

[someotherstyle]

........sorry, that was mean.

But entirely true.
-MK