Tie basics 101

[Flyswatter]



I see nothing wrong with the 4th tie. It looks to me like a Macclesfield, a traditional English pattern:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/9336/of-macclesfield-ties-fudge-welts

Certainly nothing wrong with it at all. When I said it's questionable, I meant that in the context of a "top five most versatile ties list", which is what the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about. Also note that this tie is not a Macclesfield, like pinkpanther mentioned.

PP, nice to see you in this thread.

 

[archibaldleach]



I believe I own the first 4 ties that Ennius lists. I have posted a pic of the 4th one in action in the Hober thread. I certainly respect the opinions of Archibaldleach and Flyswatter, but I think your #4 is a worthy tie in any collection.

To clarify, I have no objection to the 4th tie being in good taste or worth owning. I just am not sure that it is the best choice for one's first five Hobers.

 

[archibaldleach]



Certainly nothing wrong with it at all. When I said it's questionable, I meant that in the context of a "top five most versatile ties list", which is what the majority of the discussion in this thread has been about. Also note that this tie is not a Macclesfield, like pinkpanther mentioned.

PP, nice to see you in this thread.

+1. I see you beat me to the punch on this one.

 

[pinkpanther]



PP, nice to see you in this thread.

Thanks! I suppose it is good to venture out every now and again.

 

[Ennius]

Hi Gents,

Anyone have experience with Seigo neckwear in NYC? Sounds like interesting Japanese silk ties make in small batches (10 total?!). Not sure if they have basics though, as I am not really looking for more exotic stuff.

http://seigoneckwear.blogspot.co.uk/


Any idea where one can check out the good Naples ties in NYC? I dont like ordering online without seeing the product in person.

I like me first two Hober ties!

 

[poorsod]

I got a really nice linen tie from Seigo over a year ago. The silk patterns are too bold fore.

Barney's and BG stock Marinella. The Kiton store stocks ties.

 

[Ennius]

just picked up a nice black/silver solid silk tie from Seigo. This will be my somber tie - for serious occasions and funerals.

They have some really interesting stuff - basics and way beyond. Some really fun whimsical stuff, too. any fans here? They are all silk made in Japan. Only carried in their NYC stores from what I can see. They have a great chocolate brown solid with herringbone texture that I want, too.

Once I get a few more I will post my top 6 and see what folks think. See if I am learning....

 

[ManuelRacim]

If you were forced, by whatever circumstance, to own the bare minimum amount of ties, I think you would be hard pressed to find any situation where one of these five didn't do the trick:

Navy Pindot
Burgundy Grenadine
Prince of Wales Check
Your choice of brighter Regiment/Repp/Clubb
Your choice of earthy Madder/Foulard/Geometric

From there you could build and add whichever one-offs bring out the best in your particular suit/shirt/shoe combos.

 

[Poncho1992]

Just bought my first lot of ties for my new job (conservative business office). Tried to get colours as close as possible, but for reference, the last picture with all the ties in the bag is the best reflection of true colours. All ties are Chester Barrie, made in Italy (apart from madder which is made in England) and were in a massive sale reduced from £75 to £20 each (apart from the madder one, that was £35).






























Also waiting on a delivery this week from Exquisite Trimmings for these 2 Drake's ties: http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Navy-Woven-Grenadine-Mohair-Blend-Tie.html and http://www.exquisitetrimmings.com/products/Ties/Navy-Subtle-Wide-Stripe-Grenadine-Tie.html

These are collectively the only ties I own. How do they rate? Bear in mind the choice I had wasn't great, as I live in an area very poor for shopping. If people wouldn't mind saying, which would look better with white shirts, and which with light blue? To be worn with a navy and charcoal suits.

 

[Poncho1992]

White linen square also from Exquisite Trimmings, thought I would throw it in there as it is also a recent purchase.. Hopefully I won't be too poorly dressed for my first day at work! Which of the above is best for the first day? I'm going with the navy suit and was thinking light blue shirt navy tie and pocket square with black Meermin classic cap toe oxfords (going to be in London).

 

[Ennius]

Poncho,

I am not a pro like some here but like your collection. You have covered your basics -

Solids - navy blue, charcoal/grey, burgandy and powder blue. Nice herringbone texture I think.

Pindots - navy, brown and green ( bigger dots). I really like the brown.

Rep ties - several ones. I really like the grey and white.

Geometric pattern.

Ameboe pattern. I really dont like this but as long as you do.

My advice is go with these for several months and see how they do. Then add slowly as you see the need. You will probably have a sharper sense of what works after using this rotation for a while.

 

[Flyswatter]

Poncho, that's a pretty great starting collection. The only one I don't care for is the solid light blue, especially as it seems rather shiny. Also would have preferred the solids to be grenadine or something else with a bit more texture. @Ennius, those solids aren't herringbone, looks like reppe twill to me.

As for the question about white shirt vs. light blue shirt, pretty much any of these ties will work with either, except for the light blue tie which I would only wear with a white shirt.

 

[archibaldleach]

Poncho, this is a pretty good start. I won't rehash the whole black tie discussion from earlier in this thread, but I do think that would be something good to acquire in the near future. I would reserve the light blue tie and what appears to be a silver tie with stripes for white shirts. The rest can be worn with light blue shirts. Anything in burgundy, brown or green looks better with light blue than white IMO.

 

[Ennius]

Flyswatter,

How does one distinguish reppe twill versus herringbone on a tie? I dont think I know the difference.....

 

[Ennius]

Flyswatter,

I just found a good link here that explained it, at least I think. One can toggle through different twills and herringbone on the tie pattern pictured.

http://williamturner.tiedesigner.co.uk/


But can I trouble you to look at these two ties? They dont look that different (texture not color!). I guess there are different degrees of herringbone texture? And you see it more in a tie with a bit of color contrast that highlights the herringbone pattern versus a solid color? But the third looks much more herringbone.

'herringbone'
http://shop.kamakurashirts.com/goods_en_krw_205.html

'textured'
http://shop.kamakurashirts.com/goods_en_krw_210.html

very herringbone
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...a=X&ei=5R1xUsfUD6XmsAT75YGIBQ&ved=0CFQQ9QEwBA


I love herringbone in a tie but I think I starting to see why you suggest more texture in a solid tie as the herringbone (or twill) texture can be hard to see. What other textures do you like besides herringbone?