Tie basics 101

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Ennius, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. gringodaddy

    gringodaddy Senior member

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    It's a good tie, but inferior to both a solid brown or a solid navy.

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    nevertheless, yo quiero!

    i can always pick up a chipp2 brown grenadine for $35 if I feel the need for both.
     


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    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Incorrect. Whenever someone asks you whether you want the navy or the brown tie, the correct answer is always "yes"
    Oh, the bad old days, taking pictures in my bachelor bathroom. Now my bathroom is nice and new and comes with a 45 minute commute into the city proper.

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    That is a lighter brown tie than I'd want personally. On my monitor yours is a bronzey type color, which I have. I have three solid navy ties, and another 3-4 that are a navy base with either dots or stripes.
     


  6. Ennius

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    Hey Gents,

    I have ordered 2 Hober ties - silk Burgundy and grenadine Charcoal/Sliver. Thanks for the help. I think the navy pindot will come next.

    I would also like to see some ties in person to get a better sense before ordering more stuff online.

    I am in NYC - would somewhere like Paul Stuart be a good place to view various (overpriced) ties, materials, patterns...? Other recommendations to look at ties? Or places with good ties that are reasonably priced?

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    Kamakura on Madison has nice inexpensive ties including grenadine. J Press as well.
     


  8. Ennius

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    The Kamakura ties look very nice online - good burgundy herringbone. Will have to visit soon. Thanks.

    The Hober folks are asking me what length and width I want on the ties I ordered and also what type of knot I use.

    The only knot I know is the 4 in hand. Check.

    Width - 3'-3.5'? Guess I need to measure my suit lapels.

    Length??? Any suggestions. I am 6'1" but with long torso so maybe a bit longer than the usual 57"?
     


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    I'd measure a tie that fits well now (with the front tip obviously just touching the waistband).

    +1 on Hober!
     
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    Ask David Hober for advice on length given your height and preferred knot (and even materials; apparently grenadine tends to stretch out a bit over time). He was very helpful in this regard when I ordered from them before. You could also try the dedicated Hober thread here. Your width range sounds like the standard one.
     


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    I'm 6'2" and I wear 60" ties from Hober. That's probably a little longer than I really need, but you'll probably want at least 58" or 59". Be aware that grenadines will stretch a little over time, but by less than an inch.

    Edit: And a 3" tie that long will look way skinny. 3.5" is a safe choice, I'm a big guy so I do 3.75" in width. It doesn't need to match your lapels exactly, but it should be close.
     
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    I have been paying more attention to ties folks are wearing these days.

    Interestingly, not that many wear the classic 6-8 ties we have been discussing. Many have the standard red or yellow power ties and there are some other ties that just seem strange. Other folks notice this? Stuff that doesnt quite work together?
     


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    Yes. We live in a poorly dressed world.

    and I'm not talking about proper casual or proper SW&D or whatever. People either fail to care about how they dress, in which case they are most likely poorly dressed and have no reason to object. Or they try for a certain look or a certain tradition and fail, in which case they are poorly dressed. These two categories probably account for 60% of what we see walking around. Another 35% dresses unobjectionably in safe staples. Maybe 5% of the people out there dress well consistently by any standard (and gothninja is a standard).
     
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    I also think a lot of men who do not understand how different articles of clothing go together just memorize certain pairings and have less reason to care about versatility (especially when mimicking what they see and trying to make it work on themselves). If all one wants is to come up with 5-10 "outfits" to wear rather than have a versatile wardrobe, a lot of the things discussed in this thread become less important. Regardless of its merits, the yellow power tie with a blue shirt is a fairly standard look that a lot of guys seek to emulate, for example.

    Also, there are a lot of beyond awful ugly ties out there which wouldn't make a top 100 lest, let alone a top 5-10 list.
     


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