The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by mimo, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. Winot

    Winot Senior member

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    I've probably ranted about this before, but it's incredibly frustrating how difficult it is sometimes to find out information about case thickness. It's pretty fundamental to how a watch feels on the wrist, and yet so many makers/sellers don't bother to list it.

    An example - I'm trying to find out how thick the new Panerai 562 & 564 are - and yet the information is difficult to come by and isn't even on Panerai's own website as far as I can tell.

    Not good enough!
     


  2. pmeis

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    Yep, very strange. I have a 562 and I'm not even sure. Seems to be between 14 and 15mm. BTW, highly recommend one if it appeals to you!
     


  3. no frills

    no frills Senior member

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    I actually take a caliper and measure the case dimensions and thickness myself, as even published statistics are imprecise. The currently produced Rolex Daytona ref 116520, for example, is listed as 40mm in terms of case size, but taking a caliper and measuring it from the standard 10-4 (not including the pushers) yields 38.5mm (@Belligero mentioned this long ago, but I had to confirm it for myself). Hence, it WILL wear smaller than a SubC / SD (which really do clock in at 40mm).

    As far as thickness goes, I've measured the SubC ref 114060 at 12.5mm, the new SD4000 ref 116600 at 15mm, and the DeepSea ref 116660 at 17.5mm. No info for your Panerai references though. Sometimes you gotta do it on your own.
     


  4. Viral

    Viral Senior member

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    interesting - and good to know!
     


  5. AriGold

    AriGold Senior member

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    Guys I am absolutely torn as to which watch I should get next (considering my interval for buying watches is probably around 3-5 years per watch!)

    I currently own an Omega Speedmaster sapphire sandwich as my daily wearer.


    Option A: Rolex BLNR
    Option B: IWC Portuguesier Automatic 7-Days (ref: 5007 with updated ceramic components and double barrel spring)

    Love the Rolex BLNR and also love the 7 day movement of the IWC. They are completely different watches and I hope to own both one day. I can get a good price on the IWC (under $9,500) or an OK price on the Rolex BLNR ($9,000) OR wait 6-12 months to get an even better price on the Rolex BLNR ($7,800) through a dealer.


    What to do what to do? I live in the tropics right now so worried that excessive sweating isnt great for a leather strap's longevity.



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  6. bdavro23

    bdavro23 Senior member

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    ^ To me, since the above are very different watches and dont fill the same space at all, it would be difficult to make a like for like comparison to help decide. With that being said, you already have a speedmaster, so I would go with the IWC for a little change of pace.
     


  7. tricky

    tricky Senior member

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    Both solid choices but the BLNR would be my choice. I'm rather bias toward Rolex and the BLNR is very versatile. I would put the Speedmaster on a leather strap or nato for casual.
     


  8. robw

    robw Senior member

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    They are both great watches, so a win either way in my opinion. One thing to consider, I would suggest, is that the IWC, although not a classic dress watch because of its size, goes well with a suit or sport coat and is much more usable in that way then the Rolex (or Omega that you already have). If that is a consideration, then the IWC may get the nod.

    On a side note, it's your money, but is it really worth paying 1000+ to get 6 to 12 months more wear out of the Rolex? I would give that some thought too.

     


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    rnguy001 Senior member

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    ^ Yowza, both great watches though being completely different. Flip a coin?

    The BLNR is surely a favorite among watch guys, even more so with Rolex purists so it must be doing many things right. Personally I prefer the IWC, as the polished links on the oyster bracelet are a bit of a pet peeve, but again both solid choices.
     


  11. Farhad19620

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    IWC for me! I cannot get my straps to wear out quickly enough so I can buy another strap! LOL
     


  12. golfinz

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    There is something about the BLNR that would make it hard for me to pick the IWC over it. The BLNR will be my next Rolex
     


  13. kimmo

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    Weather.

    Now that Northern Europe has something remotely similar to summer, I noticed that my "go to"-watch changed. All winter I've grabbed the Milgauss first but since weather warmed up, JLC DSC with NATO wins the day.

    (disclaimer: this has been achieved in long vacation / sabbatical circumstances, if I'd been at the office, I'd probably would have had more variation)
     


  14. Dino944

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    The choice for me is easy, as I am biased in 2 ways...I've never really liked the IWC Portuguesier and I'm a big fan and owner of a BLNR.

    All kidding aside, in warmer weather/or a tropical climate I prefer watches on a metal bracelet. Most straps if worn in tropical climates have to be replaced more often than if you lived in a more temperate climate, particularly if you are outside a great deal (as you know sweat ruins or hastens the wear on straps). That being said, you could go with an aftermarket strap with a rubber lining, which might give you some additional wear from a strap.

    For me the GMT is a very different and versatile watch. Obviously, if you travel or need to keep track of contacting people in another timezone the GMT function is very handy. You can wear it in all sorts of weather without worrying about the strap, you can wear it to go swimming, and other than for occasions that truly require a dress watch you can get by wearing it with a suit. Also if you go with a new or newish GMT you get a 5 year warranty or the balance of it, rather than a 2 year warranty. You mention living in a tropical area, and so I can't help but think that knowing heat, humidity and moisture are not watch friendly conditions there really isn't a watch I'd rather have for such an environment than a Rolex.

    I would also ask if you have tried both on and if one made you smile more than the others. That can often be a more important factor than any advice we could give you. In the end, whatever you don't get this time you could add it to your list of "Must haves" for the future. Wishing you luck with whatever you decide.

    Here is a quick photo to help you decide.
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  15. TheTukker

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    This; +7.
     


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