Andy57
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I think you misunderstood, perhaps deliberately, when I wrote that I didn't need anyone's permission to wear a dinner jacket. I was referring to those who say that they never have occasion to wear a dinner jacket or only rarely. I personally do not wait for events that require or request black tie. I wear my dinner jacket when I want to, usually when having dinner. I don't wait for someone else to tell me to wear a dinner jacket. Furthermore, I don't care what anyone else thinks about that.As much as I do enjoy your occasional black tie rule breaking, I think it's a bit disingenuous to talk about whether you need other people's permission to wear a particular jacket. No stranger on the internet is going to stop you from wearing what you want, but there are some rules and tradition that matter to some folks and to those who care about keeping black tie alive. Otherwise, why not show up with jeans, a t-shirt, and a backwards baseball cap because nobody needs your permission to wear what you want? I know that's not what you're advocating and I respect your generally well-done coloring within (and even slightly outside) the lines of the rules, but there must be some standards and we need to talk about them coherently. Digressions into "permission" in modern culture seems a recipe for disaster.
I've been to supposed black tie events where some people showed up in jeans. I guess every village has to give its idiot the occasional night off.
As for the fellow who asked about a black watch option. He asked; I gave my opinion. I think a black watch dinner jacket would be a perfectly fine thing in the right circumstances. Black watch trousers, perhaps as a novelty to a holiday party or something, but not as part of a black tie ensemble.
If your point was something else, I'm afraid it eluded me completely.