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Roy's Jeans - Single Man Made

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by kiya, Oct 27, 2010.

  1. johnH123

    johnH123 Senior member

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    When cuntever123 complained about the price, I was expecting a $350 or 450 sticker.

    $275 sounds PERFECTLY reasonable. Borderline BARGAIN compared to other Japanese denim
    fukever123, go away


    ^^^ This. I expected $350+ when I read the post.
     
  2. whatever123

    whatever123 Senior member

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    lol thats mozzie from white collar tv show. [​IMG]
    ding, ding, ding... sorry...you may continue now!
     
  3. whatever123

    whatever123 Senior member

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    i am honestly not trying to shit up this thread further, but am actually curious do a lot of the japanese repro brands use some automation in making jeans or is everything specialized like in an assembly line?
    no, most of the construction is not automated (aside from the production of denim). they are made just like the roys but not by a single person...maybe a handful of people instead.
     
  4. kiya

    kiya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    I thought you were leaving?
    Go back to the Quoddy thread.
     
  5. grundletaint

    grundletaint Senior member

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    [​IMG] roy seems like a nice person
     
  6. milosz

    milosz Senior member

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    Fullcount 1108s at BiG just went up to $325. SugarCane has steadily climbed the price ladder. LVC just had a big hike.

    These days, if you want quality repro-style denim, you're gonna have to pay.
     
  7. mikecch

    mikecch Senior member

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    In terms of Japanese repro denim, the larger companies tend to use specialised factories for regular production jeans where one craftsman will usually handle one aspect of the production.

    Of course, smaller brands like Studio Zero, etc do have jeans made by the same person top to bottom...and special edition jeans from larger companies too.

    The craftman/woman in the factories usually rotate their niche after a year or so (so I've been told), so after a few years and many 1000s of pairs of jeans later, they will know how to make a pair of jeans in it's entirety.

    Fullcount 1108s at BiG just went up to $325. SugarCane has steadily climbed the price ladder. LVC just had a big hike.

    These days, if you want quality repro-style denim, you're gonna have to pay.


    Sugar Cane still cheap as in Japan, pricing on mainline denim hasn't changed in a few years now.
     
  8. milosz

    milosz Senior member

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    But Japanese prices are somewhat irrelevant to those of us in the states. Buying from SelfEdge or BiG, I can get jeans hemmed before shipment, have no fear of customs fees or having something get stuck in customs (though I've never paid a customs charge), easier access to returns or exchanges, etc.

    And there's the extra cost of shipping from Japan, exchange rate and proxy fees to factor in as well.
     
  9. mikecch

    mikecch Senior member

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    But Japanese prices are somewhat irrelevant to those of us in the states. Buying from SelfEdge or BiG, I can get jeans hemmed before shipment, have no fear of customs fees or having something get stuck in customs (though I've never paid a customs charge), easier access to returns or exchanges, etc. And there's the extra cost of shipping from Japan, exchange rate and proxy fees to factor in as well.
    You could get your jeans hemmed on Union or Kansai specials from most shops in Japan too (for free), and they can easily be bought from shops who readily ship overseas, no need for proxy. Some of the shops, like Pirates, also do discounted international shipping. I don't know what it's like for you guys in the US - there's no custom fees, hold-up, or tax for us Aussies up to $1000. But definitely being able to try them on in person and feel the hand of the denim is very important [​IMG] ~~~ Back on topic though, any body copped a pair of Roy's yet?
     
  10. entrero

    entrero Senior member

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    I might consider moving to Australia [​IMG]
     
  11. Listi

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    Ande' has completely switched to Jap denim, I'm curious how it compares to Cone.

    Yeah. I love the way my Cone Ande's have faded, interested in seeing some REALLY BEAT Roy's denim, but that will take a few months. I just meant construction-wise, seems like a similar operation to Ande Whall. If I ever get around to shrinking my ass and thighs (the only part of my body which seems to retain fat... I'll work it off sometime) I'll probably cop Rakers, Ande has that signature upper leg and top block devastation in the slimmer fits.
     
  12. GraphicNovelty

    GraphicNovelty Senior member

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    ...

    I don't see why people are bitching about ROY's ad copy when there are much more egregious marketing offenses on this website.
     
  13. Ideefixee

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    I don't see why people are bitching about ROY's ad copy when there are much more egregious marketing offenses on this website.

    You know what they say. Mouths get bigger the farther away they become.
     
  14. Rikkar501

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    Can someone describe to me what the fading properties of Cone denim are? The next pair I buy will most likely be Cone, and I'm wondering how they fade compared to some of the Japanese denim out there. Maybe point me in the direction of a few photos.....

    edit: I apologize, this question doesn't belong in this thread....
     
  15. poly800rock

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    I came across ROY many months ago when I searching for well made, American denim at a cheap price point. At the $275 price tag I probably won't be buying (not yet at least), although I do think the price is justified as far as splitting profits and overhead goes.

    Also, I think the higher pricing strategy will work. Consumers who are looking for US made quality denim will see the price point, which is on par with Japanese denim, and there will be a perceived value that this single operation, American made denim is just as good quality wise as the other Japanese brands. For alot of consumers this will be the selling point.

    And [​IMG] that this threak will be what pops up when some searches for ROY denim. Way to go whatever123


    this is the same argument people say about ande whall. take it or leave it.
     
  16. milosz

    milosz Senior member

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    That's one issue with whoever said this was "the same" Cone Mills denim everyone else is using - truth is, Cone Mills makes a number of denims that fade in different ways. Most of the LVC models use Cone Mills denim, and each is unique to that model. Most of the US artisanal brands using cone seem to be using sanforized Cone Mills.

    Maybe it's marketing copy, but the loom chatter/uneven aspect Kiya refers to makes me wonder if we've even seen this specific denim on any known artisanal jeans before.
     
  17. poly800rock

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    i'm kind of interested in seeing if this peaks interest in cone mills. it seems everything is second to japanese these days.....at least interest wise. all i wear is cone mills...
     
  18. kiya

    kiya Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    For the record.. this is NOT the same as other Cone denim.
    Roy is making the ONLY jean in the world in production numbers, other than LVC, from Cone's shrink-to-fit denim.
     
  19. Abraxis

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    True that... I'm a big fan of rayleigh denim who uses all sorts of cone white oak denim, but this is the first time I've heard of someone using unsanforized cone denim though now I know LVC and some small batch stuff does too!
     
  20. poly800rock

    poly800rock Senior member

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    For the record.. this is NOT the same as other Cone denim.
    Roy is making the ONLY jean in the world in production numbers, other than LVC, from Cone's shrink-to-fit denim.


    True that... I'm a big fan of rayleigh denim who uses all sorts of cone white oak denim, but this is the first time I've heard of someone using unsanforized cone denim though now I know LVC and some small batch stuff does too!

    ande whall? or is that not considered production numbers....?
     

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