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Meermin Mallorca Shoes

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by asturiano, Dec 5, 2011.

  1. meister

    meister Senior member

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    You could be in the AE factory with a bit less speed and better leather.
     
  2. mimo

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    Sorry for the logic-leap; this is a new last and looks broader across the ball of the foot. Either way I'm curious as to how it will compare to the others. MTO also offers the option of width adjustment.
     
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  3. The Shoe Snob

    The Shoe Snob Senior member Affiliate Vendor

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    My pleasure


    Are you serious?? Meermin just happens to send some shoes that they probably should not, but all of those brands have had there fair share of problem shoes, not to mention Loake....people just don't complain about them like them seem to love to complain about Meermin. It would appear that Meermin, in doing something great by offering handwelted shoes at a very low price, has also created a consumer that now expects flawless shoes at their prices, which is impractical. If you wen't to Loake's shop and inspected the quality of all of their stock, I would be willing to bet all my money that you would find your fair share of defects...and I have seen some Cheaney stuff that i will not mention... Carmina on the other hand, for me, probably makes overall the best shoes out of Spain and are way underrated....in my opinion, they should be on the level (or at least close) to the likes of C&J handgrade..... But the Meermins that I got (the premium line) were a very good value for money, plain and simple...



    Nice avatar my friend, wonder were you got it? ;-) ....when shoes were done flawlessly.....Tony G. told me that C&J circa the early 1900's made the best shoes the world has ever seen and I think the spectator in that pic proves it!!

    now I may be reading this backwards, but is your response here in reference to AE having better leather than G&G or Meermin?
     
  4. konda

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    You guys are fucking up my jodhpur MTO with your BS. Back to to subject. A few more ppl to the jodhpur MTO needed.
     
  5. RogerP

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    ^^^ Sorry, I find the discussion a good deal more engaging.
     
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  6. Swede66

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    So do I
     
  7. laufer

    laufer Senior member

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    Konda,

    Sorry man I was interested in it but this last austerity boot MTO was a straw that broke the camel back. Meermin needs to hire some six sigma consultants to get their house in order. I do not think anybody expected the first grade leather or flawless stitching from Meermin. However the missing toe plate from one shoe or shark bites and similar construction flaws are just too much especially when one takes into consideration shipping cost, duties paid etc etc.
    I think some folks here have expected too much in terms of quality but not too much in terms of the construction.
     
  8. othertravel

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    Fair doesn't = bad. I like Meermin's designs quite a bit, but the flaws noted above would give anybody pause.
    - Off center brogueing;
    - Welt coming off, or loosely stitched;
    - 'Shark nose' toe;
    - Odd leather properties

    And for arguments sake, let's say that Loake, C&J and E&G started to display similar issues with their MTOs, do you really think they would say "you complain too much" if brought to their attention?

    No shoe manufacturer will ever be perfect. But you have to admit, the rash of problems that have come up recently point to some gaps in their QC.
     
  9. AchtungBaby07

    AchtungBaby07 Senior member

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    It is inevitable that some flaws may fall through the crack during the QC process. What I thought is more pertinent is in fact the customer service after the flaws have been flagged out to them.

    If they are refusing to settle the issue given it's a major screw up on their part, then I think they probably do not deserve our patronage.
     
  10. konda

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    I feel you. Your point is extremely valid.
     
  11. MarioImpemba

    MarioImpemba Senior member

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    My girlfriend is a stickler when it comes to customer service. She said I need to send my boots back because of the missing toe plate. I had to explain to her how much that would cost and how it was not worth it.

    When my Filson rucksack had stitching fall apart, I took it to the Filson store and they shipped it out and repaired it and shipped it back at a total cost of $0 to me.

    When I had an issue with my Aldens, they called me and I ended up with free Alden cordovan wax and Alden shoe trees.

    The missing toe plate really doesn't bother me that much, but it did dishearten me a bit that I am already too dejected by the stories here to even mention it to Meermin.
     
  12. konda

    konda Senior member

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    I think you should claim the plate and kindly ask for free shoe trees as you need to pay the local cobbler to attach the plate.
     
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  13. The Shoe Snob

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    i guess that we are arguing apples and oranges. My only argument is that when Meermin makes a shoe without flaws it is an exceptional shoe for the money, not whether or not they always make good shoes. I don't frequent this thread often enough (outside of these last few pages since I have been involved in a few discussions) to understand all of the flaws that they create or the poor customer service. As per your list of flaws, well I can tell you that I have seen many crooked patterns, even on the best makers (even sometimes on my own shoes unfortunately), as well as odd leather properties. If a factory with a relatively large output rejected every single small flaw they found on a pair of shoes, they would be out of business.....only the high end makers like G&G and EG can really justify rejecting even the smallest of flaws, as they have to for their retail price....their shoes have much higher QC standards and more handwork involved, so things are paid more attention to. ....not saying that £250-£350 is cheap and doesn't warrant a good shoe in return, but this is just what I have seen since being much more involved in shoemaking and the industry.....

    Not sure what a shark nose toe is and for the welt coming off, well that is not acceptable, that I can admit....

    Mostly from what I have seen here is complaints about leather and creasing, but one toe plate not being on a shoe while the other has one is completely understandable for one to be angry at. That is just sloppy and negligible QC and a company deserves to be yelled at for that, I know that I would for sure....Look, I am not here to argue in favor of Meermin's ability to deliver great service or consistently deliver a great product just that for their price they make a good shoe (when there are no serious flaws). Whether every shoe they send out is 100% is not something that I could ever know.



    This I agree with 100%
     
  14. New Shoes1

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    This hits the nail on the head. I'm fine receiving defective Allen Edmonds because the Company will make it right without my even needing to press the issue. Meermin's lack of response and/or concern for all of the problems discussed in this thread leaves me hesitant to buy anything else from them.
     
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    I can't imagine voluntarily handing over my money to a company that won't stand behind its product. Of course nobody is perfect (and some are decidedly less perfect than others) but the response to an identified flaw or deficiency speaks volumes.
     
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    Has meermin refused to fix shoes with QC problems?

    Or is the buyer refusing to pay the shipping to go back for them to fix it.? They are two different things. (Meermin says on its website that they do not pay for shipping. They do not hide this fact)
     
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    They paid my shipping on my museum calf shoes. I haven't even asked them to fix the boots as I'm not gonna deal with someone who tells me I'm obviously looking for a higher standard than they can provide. What? Straight soles and tight welt stitching is beyond you? Good to know!
     
  18. RogerP

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    Wow. Yeah, I'd say they need to aim a little higher than that.
     
  19. MarioImpemba

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    Ozzy, I'm sure you have stated it somewhere in this thread, but I am lazy: who did you contact about your issues? Pepe? If so, I have his email.

    I will contact Meermin about my missing toe cap, if only for the benefit of this thread as an experiment, to see what response and options I am given.
     
  20. OzzyJones

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    It was Pepe.
    I get that it could be frustrating to have the same guy come to you with issues every time he buys something but let's face it, the museums were a fkng disaster, they fixed them at no cost to me other than time, great but the least I'd expect. They also put an insole in to help sort the size out for which I was most grateful. Then when I contact him to say I'm not happy about the off line wing, visible welt stitching and the fact that the sole points in a different direction to the toe on the boots I and others have waited four months for I'm told there's nothing wrong, perhaps they're not good enough makers for me and that I didn't thank them for sorting my museums for me! (Yeah, you put an insole in them, after you removed the entire sole and welt to refit it the way it should've been done in the first place if you actually gave a shit!
     

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