MC General Chat

[whorishconsumer]

<shrug> Cue up every Dieworkwear article about cultural issues and clothes.

I'm perfectly okay with general "Please Don't be a Slob" rules. I'm also okay with marijuana legalization but don't really like smelling it everywhere.

Derek and I are of similar minds here.

I, in fact, abhor the stench of pot, in particular the ******, stepped-on crap that people insist on smoking here in NYC. There is also manner of dress that, on occasion, I am brought to find unattractive. But neither of these matters of personal preference justify social policy that limits access to individuals based upon their recreational habits or mode of dress.

These kinds of policies are like 2 feet away from "Whites Only".

 

[smittycl]

Derek and I are of similar minds here.

I, in fact, abhor the stench of pot, in particular the ******, stepped-on crap that people insist on smoking here in NYC. There is also manner of dress that, on occasion, I am brought to find unattractive. But neither of these matters of personal preference justify social policy that limits access to individuals based upon their recreational habits or mode of dress.

These kinds of policies are like 2 feet away from "Whites Only".

The weed smell in Manhattan is nuts. It's everywhere. Mixes poorly with the pee smell on the Subway.

I agreed with Derek on the cultural appropriation arguments but still think some general rules for nicer places is fine. Beach bar? Wear all the stuff on that list above. More elegant place that wants a higher level of formality? Sure, gently mandate a simple dress code.

Anyway, I know what you mean and dress codes have certainly been used to keep some folks out.

 

[Mirage-]

Eh, this is a topic that will never go anywhere because people will always make it about politics rather than aesthetics.

 

[beargonefishing]

It all boils down to "If other people simply acted and dressed according to my preferences, respect/health/happiness/whateverX would follow." Hell, Jesus probably wore a simple tunic, which is indistinguishable from a moo moo, sans underwear. He was cross dressing.

 

[Mirage-]

It all boils down to "If other people simply acted and dressed according to my preferences, respect/health/happiness/whateverX would follow."

No, not really. We are not talking about imposing people how to dress in publicly accessible spaces, and much less whether it would bring any magical quality (which I don't think it would).
We are talking about whether it is fine for a restaurant (or equivalent) to have a (even very moderate and reasonable, in this case) dress code in the belief that it would enhance the experience of people that chose to go there. Which you might deny it does, but you actually can't, because you can't decide what enhances an experience for someone else, it's a personal thing.
But then you'll say it infringes on your freedom, or discriminates, etc etc which I don't agree with but will refrain from elaborating further as it's already been discussed to death in another thread and again, nothing good will ever come from this discussion as it's too ideologically charged.

 

[beargonefishing]

No, not really.

Which you might deny it does, but you actually can't, because you can't decide what enhances an experience for someone else, it's a personal thing.

Very sound logic.

 

[ericgereghty]

The weed smell in Manhattan is nuts. It's everywhere. Mixes poorly with the pee smell on the Subway.

I agreed with Derek on the cultural appropriation arguments but still think some general rules for nicer places is fine. Beach bar? Wear all the stuff on that list above. More elegant place that wants a higher level of formality? Sure, gently mandate a simple dress code.

Anyway, I know what you mean and dress codes have certainly been used to keep some folks out.

I'm surprised weed stank made it through the putrid garbage stank!

 

[whorishconsumer]

I'm surprised weed stank made it through the putrid garbage stank!

It's more a compliment to.

 

[othertravel]

But what does Lardini think about all this??

 

[smittycl]

My problem with Lardini is that it seems most of their own-brand jackets (at least those I've seen around, I assume there are pricier collections?) are polyester-lined. It boggles my mind why you would construct a nice jacket and then ruin it with poly lining, to save what, literally a couple euro per jacket over cupro/viscose?

Is this what you mean? "Lining: Polyester 100%, Viscose 52%, Cupro 48%"

Looks like just a blend of cupro and viscose.

 

[Mirage-]

Is this what you mean? "Lining: Polyester 100%, Viscose 52%, Cupro 48%"

Looks like just a blend of cupro and viscose.

ehm? That makes 200% of which 100% is polyester. I assume one is the sleeves the other the body?

 

[smittycl]

ehm? That makes 200% of which 100% is polyester. I assume one is the sleeves the other the body?

Here it is from a different site, this time with critical punctuation.

"100% polyester Lining : 54% cupro, 46% viscose"

 

[Mirage-]

Here it is from a different site, this time with critical punctuation.

"100% polyester Lining : 54% cupro, 46% viscose"

right, but it makes even less sense. I've actually seen this version too and was left confused, polyester isn't a blend of viscose and cupro no matter how you look at it. I still think they meant to say that sleeves are 100% poly and rest is a blend of viscose and cupro. Or maybe it's just a misprint (but a very widespread one on their tags).

 

[smittycl]

right, but it makes even less sense. I've actually seen this version too and was left confused, polyester isn't a blend of viscose and cupro no matter how you look at it. I still think they meant to say that sleeves are 100% poly and rest is a blend of viscose and cupro. Or maybe it's just a misprint (but a very widespread one on their tags).

My take was they used Poly as a catch-all term and then listed the specifics. I could be wrong as polyester is synthetic but cupro and viscose are semi-synthetic.

 

[smittycl]

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