MC General Chat

[smittycl]

High buttoning point or model who is too tall for the clothes???

I think it's the buttoning point. Very short lapels, almost three-button suit versions.

 

[othertravel]

It does look a little high. But either way, capsule collections are always interesting, especially from brands with long histories.

They were smart to focus on classic fabrics (sharkskin, pin stripes, etc...).

 

[dieworkwear]

Silhouette looks kind of Macy's to me.

 

[othertravel]

Here are some Brioni pics that illustrate the buttoning point being a bit too high:

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

Here are some Brioni pics that illustrate the buttoning point being a bit too high:

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I am not sure that there is such a thing as a correct buttoning point. It's more a matter of what looks good. The first jacket is too tight and we can only see the top of it. The third jacket is too short and thus the buttoning point looks very high. I think the second picture looks good, though. The buttoning point is definitely higher than you normally see in these parts, but I don't think the jacket looks worse for it.

 

[ChasingStyle]

The third one is particularly bad.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

I am not sure that there is such a thing as a correct buttoning point. It's more a matter of what looks good. The first jacket is too tight and we can only see the top of it. The third jacket is too short and thus the buttoning point looks very high. I think the second picture looks good, though. The buttoning point is definitely higher than you normally see in these parts, but I don't think the jacket looks worse for it.

My own inclination is to have the buttoning point on a single-breasted jacket be precisely at my natural waist. For someone with a natural slimness/v-shape this actually creates a good line for the lapel, since that is also where there will be the most waist suppression.

A higher buttoning point tends to emphasise an overall slimness throughout the body, since the waist cannot be taken in too much. You can see this on the suits above - a very gradual shaping and nothing to enhance the shoulders. A lower buttoning point (assuming one has the figure for it) will allow for a sharper distinction between the waist and shoulders, and create a strong chest and proportionate torso.

Example of approximate spot for me:

 

[bry2000]

Yikes, that is a bad example, but don’t know if you are joking.

 

[Eli Curt]

Yikes, that is a bad example, but don’t know if you are joking.

Only by an inch or so. It's not terrible.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

Yikes, that is a bad example, but don’t know if you are joking.

I just grabbed the first picture I could find - anyone with Google can find another. The point is that moving the buttons down several inches makes for a much better line of the lapel and a stronger chest.

 

[othertravel]

That's what makes it so unfortunate. I'm assuming the actors above are wearing mtm Brioni, and you can see flashes of brilliance on the suits. The shoulders are clean, and not too boxy. The sleevehead in the last pic drapes perfectly (can't comment on the trousers).

But the buttoning point doesn't seem to work well.

 

[smittycl]

"Tariffs will also be lifted on UK cheese, cashmere and machinery.
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US suspends tariffs on single malt Scotch whisky

Tariffs on UK cheese and cashmere will also be lifted as the countries try to resolve an old trade row.

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[hpreston]

"Tariffs will also be lifted on UK cheese, cashmere and machinery.
The duties will be suspended for four months while the two sides seek a long-term settlement."

US suspends tariffs on single malt Scotch whisky

Tariffs on UK cheese and cashmere will also be lifted as the countries try to resolve an old trade row.

www.bbc.com

This is most excellent news

 

[edinatlanta]

1) I am excited to ruin another thread
2) I've found the last like five months that a linen square is the way to go. Something about how strongly it pops makes it the best to me, and I usually hate white/black things.

 

[smittycl]

1) I am excited to ruin another thread
2) I've found the last like five months that a linen square is the way to go. Something about how strongly it pops makes it the best to me, and I usually hate white/black things.

That's the only pocket square I really ever wear.