Mad Men Season 4

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by Jodum5

Cheating, lying asshole that enjoys physically intimidating her.

Whether his name is Don Draper or Dick Whitman, and whether he came from Podunksvill or NYC, that's him.

 

[intent]

Burt didn't care. Pete doesn't care anymore.

 

[gomestar]

It's not like Betty was entirely taken by surprise either. She was well aware of the fact that she never really "knew" her husband as demonstrated in one of the very first episodes where she was awake in bed while he slept and she did the ominous "who are you?" while looking at him.

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by gomestar

It's not like Betty was entirely taken by surprise either. She was well aware of the fact that she never really "knew" her husband as demonstrated in one of the very first episodes where she was awake in bed while he slept and she did the ominous "who are you?" while looking at him.

Interesting. I don't remember that. Foreshadowing, indeed!

 

[Gibonius]

About Betty and the divorce, I think all sympathy for her was lost over her reasons for the divorce. If she had bailed because he was a cheating drunk who was never around and provided no emotional support for the family, we'd all be in her corner. But she bailed on him because he was a farm boy, who had technically sort of been married before, and it didn't fit her little fairy tale princess scenario of life she had mapped out. Combine that with her lining up Henry Francis as an immediate replacement, her horrendous treatment of the kids, etc, and she just looks awful all the way around.

One of the low moments for Betty was when her dad was dying and she refused to talk about the estate, basically said "You can't make me be an adult and deal with this, make it go away" and Don had to take care of it. Betty's whole world-view in a nutshell.

Don's no saint by any means, but he's at least living in reality most of the time. This season's alcohol abuse shows him NOT living in reality and how it's screwing his life up.

 

[Joffrey]

Originally Posted by Gibonius

About Betty and the divorce, I think all sympathy for her was lost over her reasons for the divorce. If she had bailed because he was a cheating drunk who was never around and provided no emotional support for the family, we'd all be in her corner. But she bailed on him because he was a farm boy, who had technically sort of been married before, and it didn't fit her little fairy tale princess scenario of life she had mapped out. Combine that with her lining up Henry Francis as an immediate replacement, her horrendous treatment of the kids, etc, and she just looks awful all the way around.

One of the low moments for Betty was when her dad was dying and she refused to talk about the estate, basically said "You can't make me be an adult and deal with this, make it go away" and Don had to take care of it. Betty's whole world-view in a nutshell.

Don's no saint by any means, but he's at least living in reality most of the time. This season's alcohol abuse shows him NOT living in reality and how it's screwing his life up.

You, sir, have listed some decent reasons for being equally disgusted with Betty as a character. Thanks for reminding me.

 

[Gibonius]

Now that I think about it, Betty found out Don had been cheating....and cheated back with that random dude at the bar, and then with Henry. That was when she still thought he was Don Draper, illustrious business person from California etc etc. Then she learned he was Dick Whitman, divorced farm-boy, and she suddenly found him intolerable.

I mean, it was a significant lie to be sure, but his infidelity was tolerable but not that?

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by Gibonius

Now that I think about it, Betty found out Don had been cheating....and cheated back with that random dude at the bar, and then with Henry. That was when she still thought he was Don Draper, illustrious business person from California etc etc. Then she learned he was Dick Whitman, divorced farm-boy, and she suddenly found him intolerable.

I mean, it was a significant lie to be sure, but his infidelity was tolerable but not that?

Yes, that was exactly my point above.

 

[otc]

Originally Posted by Gibonius

Combine that with her lining up Henry Francis as an immediate replacement, her horrendous treatment of the kids, etc, and she just looks awful all the way around.

Originally Posted by robbie

Then in season two you realize how petty she is, and the she just continues to be concerned with really really stupid things and unlike-able in every way.

I think you guys are forgetting one small thing

 

[limping_decorum]

Originally Posted by otc

I think you guys are forgetting one small thing

oh yeah....she can't act.

 

[embowafa]

Originally Posted by limping_decorum

oh yeah....she can't act.

hoooo man, you're not kidding.

Her performance as the host of Saturday Night Live was so awful, it actually turned me off to J Jones as well as Betty Draper.

 

[Teacher]

Originally Posted by embowafa

hoooo man, you're not kidding.

Her performance as the host of Saturday Night Live was so awful, it actually turned me off to J Jones as well as Betty Draper.

Why on Earth did they pick her to host SNL? Was it when she had that GQ cover?

 

[limping_decorum]

the chick who plays peggy will get a emmy before jones does.......that or a potted plant.

 

[chronoaug]

jj really isn't that hot (for an actress/celebrity obv is a real life knockout). That gq cover shot is pretty bad imo. The other pic she has an awesome body but hair/facial expression is weird.

maybe it's the fact that no matter the context, she now seems like a huge ***** who everyone hates haha

 

[MrGimpy]

Originally Posted by limping_decorum

the chick who plays peggy will get a emmy before jones does.......that or a potted plant.

Peggy is fantastic but I'm going to stick up for January Jones--I think her acting is excellent in Mad Men. Much of the reason people hate her so much is because she's so effective at playing the spoiled, self-centred ***** Betty.