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Lets talk about COFFEE

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Flambeur, Dec 2, 2009.

  1. Knowledge is King

    Knowledge is King Senior member

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    I had a good americano from Gimme! the other day (Mott St.) . I rarely order espresso or drinks derived from it so I can't comment much on the consistency there though.

    As for Gimme's hot coffee (I'll get to the cold coffee in sec), I've got a lot of experience, all at the Mott St. location. I can tell it's quality coffee which makes me want to like it, but it just doesn't suit my taste. I've tried nearly every coffee they offer, brewed in every which way, and they are distinctive but I never really love any of them. It's not surprising to me that other people like it though. I can't help but admit that I like the coffees from someone like Counter Culture more.

    As for Gimme's cold brewed coffee, they do a great job. Last summer they were cold brewing a coffee called Miravalle from El Salvador and it was awesome -- like concord grape juice coffee almost. Somehow they avoid the chocolate-whiskey flavors that a lot of other cold brews develop.

    Not related to their coffee, I can't get over how slow Gimme can be sometimes (again, Mott St. location). It's shocking how long they can take so if I see more than a few people in there, I just keep walking. There's plenty of other good coffee nearby.
     
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    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Funny, I am always underwhelmed by Counter Culture coffee.
     
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    Today I bought a canister of Blue Bottle's (stupidly expensive) Ethiopian Nekisse. It's got a lot of natural sweetness and a lot of blueberry/berry overtones. A really good coffee but it's too expensive to buy repeatedly. If you're in the mood to splurge though, I'd definitely recommend it. Brewed it in a Clever for 3:30, 24g of coffee, 400g of water at 93 celsius.
     
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    I haven't been to one of the retail locations, but I wasn't a big fan of most of their beans. Maybe too Third Wave for me.
     
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    I think Gimme is more distinct than Counter Culture that's for sure. They do a good job of offering distinct Central and South American coffees. As for African coffees though, I usually prefer Counter Culture and my bias in general is for African coffees. Gimme has very few African coffees which led me to ask the barista's about it once like 5 years ago. They said that it was mostly a price issue.

    Edit: part of the problem with the cafes that serve Counter Culture is that they always serve the cheaper beans as the daily brew. You never get to try some of their better coffees unless you buy the beans and brew at home
     
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    The fact that Joe is on there at all tells you the list is crap.
     
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    I'm not a big coffee buff, but I prefer Ipsento to Wormhole. I usually just get this.

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  8. Knowledge is King

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    I'd be more interested in seeing a list of top roasters
     
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    I just made some instant coffee. It's decent and only makes me shit several hours later in the afternoons.
     
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    I like Stumptown for African coffees.
     
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    3rd wave coffee makes you shit instantaneously...like so fast that you almost have to sit on the toilet while drinking it.
     
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    +1. I've really liked their African offerings. The Ethiopian Mordecofe was especially good. I haven't tried any of their pricier options.


    On the other hand, I haven't liked any of the Indonesian coffees they sell. Maybe I just don't like Indonesia coffee.
     
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    I'm not huge on Indo coffees. Too much earth, not enough acid. A lot of them taste like dirt to me. In espresso blends Indo coffees can add a great quality.
     
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    Agree on the Indonesian coffees. Too many syrupy molasses and savory notes, not enough good acidity. I'll take a good indonesian coffee over a lousy coffee from somewhere else though.
     
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    which location do you go to, I can tell you they have no consistency between each location, within each location they do have consistency though. The better ones in Manhattan are Union Square, Grand Central (on the sweeter side) and Upper East side. The ones on upper West Side is not my cup of tea (or coffee)... though again I am not die hard coffee drinker. I can't taste the subtleties of coffee as I can with tea and wine, so I always order something like cappuccino or macchiato.
     
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    They don't have retail locations so you sort of have to rely on a local cafe to stock it, otherwise you're stuck with ordering it on the internet or perhaps living near one of their regional offices.

    In NYC, Everyman is probably the most popular place that uses Counter Culture beans. Bluebird also uses them and Abraco was (not positive if they still do). Counter Culture's NY offices/training location is on 26th b/w 6th and Broadway. They do free cuppings once a week but they don't do any street level commerce. The Joe "Pro Shop" or whatever they call it is nearby there too on 21st St.
     
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    I really like the BB Nekisse too. Coava's Kilenso is also a dry-process Ethiopian, and is just as good, but cheaper and less pretentious.
     
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    I live in the 'burbs of Maryland outside of DC and it's a coffee wasteland. Starbucks as far as the eye can see, barely any local coffee houses, and none of the better national coffee shops. Basically forced to make it myself; I have to drive 20 minutes to get a decent espresso.
     
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    That sounds about right. I'm drinking an Aged Sumatra from Peets now and it could use some acid. At least it doesn't taste like dirt.
     
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    Try Peet's Ethiopian Fancy, which has more acid. Non-washed beans like the Sumatra don't tend to be very acidy, and combined with Peet's darker roasting, you're not going to get much acid. I was pleasantly surprised by their Ethiopian, whose acidity cuts through the dark roast notes very well. But you have to push the extraction a bit more to get to it: for my process, I stir more.
     

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