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Korean necktie label -- seeking translation

mack11211

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This is on a paisley tie labeled "Lady Margaret Boating Club" and "John Comfort, London." LMBC is the boating club of St. John's College, Cambridge. Necktie label seems to be Korean. More licensed Anglophilia, I guess.

But what does it say?

 

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Top line:
Home-country made (literal translation). Connotes made in Korea.

Bottom line:
Silk: 100%
 

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Thanks!
 

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Are you sure it is Korean? The label uses Chinese characters... but, Seok is more or less right about the translation. 100% silk; "Home country product" ...sort of the Asian version of "Made with pride in the USA."
 

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Chinese characters, but AFAIK, I don't think the expression guk-san-pum (would be guo-chan-pin in Chinese) exists in Mandarin. Does it? I'd be curious to know.

We're so far off topic from Men's Clothing now...
 

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I'm not sure either about Mandarin; I was thinking of it as Japanese Kanji (Chinese characters)...
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We're taking a nice little voyage with Asian languages here.
 

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Irrespective of the language in which the characters are written/woven, this is a Korean-made neck tie, yes?
 

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They are Chinese characters but I believe the Korean written language includes, or used to include, a few thousand Chinese characters. In contemporary usage Korean is written with what is basically a syllabary. Native Korean speakers, please correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman
They are Chinese characters but I believe the Korean written language includes, or used to include, a few thousand Chinese characters. In contemporary usage Korean is written with what is basically a syllabary. Native Korean speakers, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Not a native Korean speaker, but still competent to say that hangul, the Korean writing system, is an alphabet and not a syllabary, even though Unicode seems to treat it as a syllabary (I suppose because the letters of each syllable are grouped together).

As to whether the tie is Korean-made or not, that depends on the answer to Seok's question. I don't think that all the Chinese characters traditionally used by Koreans are still meaningful to modern Chinese speakers, and if these fall into that category, then I suppose it could be Korean-made. I would guess, though, that Korean-made ties nowadays would mostly use hangul for the tags (although I don't really know).
 

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Originally Posted by mack11211
Irrespective of the language in which the characters are written/woven, this is a Korean-made neck tie, yes?

Just out of curiosity, what makes you think it is Korean? I don't have too many USA made tshirts with tags in German.
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Originally Posted by AmInAm
As to whether the tie is Korean-made or not, that depends on the answer to Seok's question. I don't think that all the Chinese characters traditionally used by Koreans are still meaningful to modern Chinese speakers, and if these fall into that category, then I suppose it could be Korean-made. I would guess, though, that Korean-made ties nowadays would mostly use hangul for the tags (although I don't really know).

For what it is worth, the characters are meaninful in Japanese as indicating that the product was made in country. I have seen quite a few neckties sold in Japan, but almost all of them have used a different set of graphs. 「日本製」

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Originally Posted by Bic Pentameter
For what it is worth, the characters are meaninful in Japanese as indicating that the product was made in country. I have seen quite a few neckties sold in Japan, but almost all of them have used a different set of graphs. 「日本製」

Bic


Bic, my Japanese ties are like yours as well, which was the only thing that was keeping me from thinking it more likely a Japanese tie.
 

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