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For those who wear 38 Short

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by imageWIS, Jan 24, 2005.

  1. imageWIS

    imageWIS Senior member

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    otis Well-Known Member

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    I think that's Ralph's size.
     
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    imageWIS Senior member

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    Very possibly...which makes me wonder as to why there aren't more items in 36 / 38 Short from RL. Especially since when RL does indeed produce a 36 / 38 Short, they make one or two of them for a particular style. That's 1 or 2 company wide. Which means only 2 people will be able to purchase a particular jacket / suit if they wear 36 / 38 S. Boils my blood

    Jon.
     
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    I believe he's a 36S Ditto above comment - he, if anyone, should understand how hard it is for smaller gentlemen, so why doesn't he stock more? That said, I love RL p.s. there's a 36S for sale on the Polo website, which I think is still too expensive: jacket p.p.s. there was a 37S RLPL navy bherringone sport jacekt on Ebay last week. $2K retail, sold for $480. I bid $475, which was the original buy it now price (I refuse to pay over buy it now) - well, someone came in and bid higher. Hope they enjoy it. I probably should have hit buy it now to begin with, but was trying to get a deal.
     
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    THAT IS RALPH'S SIZE..
     
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    Ok, if RL is a 36S, why oh, why doesn't RL stock the size? Can anyone think of a rational argument why they would not stock it?

    Jon.
     
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    Maybe it would help if Ralph Lauren were apprised of a thread such as this one. I honestly think that, after the Times article, the opinions on this board are at least moderately powerful, if not already seen by those in the industry who lurk here. Perhaps previously buyers assumed that there weren't many 36 shorts out there.
     
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    He knows you want the size, and out of self-loathing, he does it to spite others the same size as himself. Furthermore, he limits himself to buying at his own retail establishments, so he is stuck wearing silly ranchwear, as you see in pictures of him.
     
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    this is exactly the reason. They assume that there aren't many of this size. There are.

    My mother, a clothes-a-holic if ever there was one, was asked by Neiman Marcus to attend a focus group thing for people who spend a lot of money there to be asked questions, voice concerns, etc. She asked them why on earth they don't carry ANY small sizes in the mens department - it is frequent that in Short Hills the smallest size they have in certain style will be a Medium, perhaps even a Large. They also don't really carry 38s in suits and jackets, let alone 36s. Sure enough, many of the other Chanel and St. John-clad women spoke up and said that their husbands too can't find their sizes and have to either shop in New York or have their stuff made. Stores are clearly missing out on a large chunk of the market. Well, the NM people assured them that this would change. Has it? Not a bit.
     
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    Idiots, I tell you. Why even pay for a focus group if you don't listen to them?

    Businesses are run like such crap. If the people in charge would just come down from the ivory towers and listen to consumers for a change, things would be so much better (for instance, why is it so damn hard to find a slim fitting shirt? It isn't the case that Brooks Brothers is catering to the fat market -- their image is of preppy rowers.).
     
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    I share the frustration with you all concerning this matter. I am a 36R and I NEVER find that size when it comes to topcoats. I have not had as much of an issue with suits, although the selection is usually very limited in that size. I will give Ralph Lauren credit though for actually producing extra small's for his cashmere calble knit sweaters. I don't know of any other designer that makes an XS...yet, we go out of our way to make XXXL....how sad is that. [​IMG]
     
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    Yes, he does produce sweaters in XS, albeit not many and they are almost always cashmere, never in less expensive materials. The only company I know of that consistently manufactures XS items is The GAP.

    Funny, I purchased a few RLPL wool / silk / cashmere sweaters on sale and they are actually a bit tight around the sleeve whole underneath my armpits, but it fits like a glove everywhere else, odd, huh?

    Jon.
     
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    Perhaps short suit sizes don't sell because many men do not want to self-identify as short. Â All over D.C. -- a town populated by many men of below-average height -- I see men wearing suit jackets that are way too long ( i.e., hem well below the end of the thumb).
     
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    Maybe they should reclassify the sizes: R = S, L = R, and L = XL, that would work, no? Jon.
     
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    I'm a short guy (just under 5'8"). While it's slightly embarassing asking for smaller sizes, I'd be even more embarassed wear clothes that swamp me. I'd certainly look tiny then.
     
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    another reason might be the fattening of America. many men who might be 5'4" or whatever the standard height is for an S size, are probably 215 lbs so they have to wear something made for them. i know i rarely see short guys who aren't 30 pounds overweight.
     
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    I think Ralph is also the only designer I know who produces one single model in 35 different colors.  The model I am referring to is the basic crewneck cable knit cashmere sweater.  If you go online, you will see there are 35 different colors available.  The local Nordstrom Rack here had some on sale for $100, but they are all gone now. I am tempted to pay the $300 sale price at the Ralph Lauren store just because it is so difficult to find smalls (impossible to find xs) in the wide array of colors that he offers.
     
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    I called almost every major RL store last week, and many have XS Polo sweaters for the $300 price of the website. Call them first before you buy online.

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    Thanks for the information.  Given the cut of those sweaters, I could also wear a small and even almost a medium (I did try a Medium on and it still fit me pretty well despite the sleeves being a tad long).  I am wondering if those cashmere sweaters will be marked down any more.  Just marking them down 25% off seems ridiculus when there are RLPL sweaters being marked down 70%
     
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    Yeah, but many of the RLPL items are non-recurring, except for the 3-button placket sweater and the ribbed v-neck, both in cashmere. Thus, they have to get rid of them. Good for you and me, bad for RL.

    Jon.
     

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