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Faster SF for XP Users

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by chet31, Sep 29, 2011.

  1. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    IOTW you've made it all up. Just have some balls and say so.
     


  2. MyOtherLife

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    Nothing wrong with my tech over here and you've only revealed your ignorance on this subject.
     


  3. cptjeff

    cptjeff Senior member

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    If you had just said microsoft, you would have just been pegged as an apple fanboy. There would be elements of truth in the statement, but it's false in various other regards. But adding google in there just makes you look like an idiot.

    IE is crap, and always had been. The only people using it are people who are too ignorant of computers to switch to Chrome or Firefox, or those locked in by corporate systems designed by idiots that insist on IE6 because it was designed to only work with IE6, which is possible because microsoft deliberately made it with somewhat different standards so that many webpages designed on and for IE6 would be incompatible with other browsers. Which was, of course, a move designed to leverage their market share into crushing other browsers. Bad corporate IT departments took the easy way out and went along with it, and as a result their networks are pretty damn insecure, since IE6 is notorious for being a security nightmare.

    Google, on the other hand, makes good stuff. To claim that you're never going to achieve safety browsing the internet with something google makes is flat out wrong. I personally use firefox because I love being able to do all sorts of random shiat with my browser, but Chrome is certainly respectable.

    But, with the PC comment, I suspect you are just an apple fanboy (or worse, a linux evangelist) with a tinfoil hat anti google thing going on. You were asked for a citation, and the best you could come up with was "because I said so". Not even a clarification as to how Microsoft or google products might be insecure. You've lost the argument. Even if you dig something up, bald assertions backed up with nothing other than your own nonexistant authority automatically loses a debate.
     


  4. Nicola

    Nicola Senior member

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    Hey google makes Linux products :slayer:
     


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    apropos Senior member

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    Not a new phenomenon for MoL, he is big on impressive pronouncements that don't actually mean much.

    Then when he gets called out the claws come out and he gets all personal.

    In other words - welcome to SF! :slayer:
     
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  6. Sanguis Mortuum

    Sanguis Mortuum Senior member

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    +1

    I work in 'IT' (hate that term) and (forgoing modesty for a moment) I know my shit, and I don't have a fucking clue what MoL is on about. It doesn't help that he refuses to elaborate on what he actually means. It's like he just keeps shouting "I KNOW SOMETHING YOU DONT KNOW" but refuses to tell anyone what it is that he knows (which suggests he actually knows nothing).
     


  7. MikeDT

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    So does my TV, digital camera and mobile phone, they all use Linux.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Chrome, Firefox 4+, Safari 5+ (Mac version only), Opera and even IE9 are all fine for rendering this site well. Unless your company is holding you on an old version of IE because of shitty internal webapps then there is no excuse to upgrade to another browser. As far as usability goes, Chrome, Firefox, Safari and Opera are miles beyond IE. Chrome and Firefox 7 are about on equal footing when it comes to performance and Safari on the Mac is up there as well. Opera is overall the fastest but personally I feel its user interface is a bit clunky in many areas and it has poor extension support.

    If you're still running XP on a fairly modern machine, upgrading to Win7 is a good idea. It's infinitely more secure, is much easier to use and runs faster.
     


  9. musicguy

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    I like IE9 a lot. I tried Opera and it was a total piece of shit. So slow and laggy. Anyway, FF works fine too.

    OP, get a new computer. You can get one for around $300 these days that's blazing fast. I built a new i3 system about 6 months ago. Works great. Cost me under $500 and has good components.
     
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  10. chet31

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    ^ I need XP for business use (I work out of my home), but maybe i need to pick up another machine for Internet use. Or get really brave, get a new machine and do a dual boot. But this website is the only place where XP has really failed me.
     


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    I could care less if you guys love Google and/or Microsoft. Those of you who love big brother will go to your peril with smiles on your faces. Doesn't matter to me in the least. Lap it up and ask for seconds!. :)
     
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    Says a man who has Donald Trump for his avatar... OK... whatever!!
     


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    meaning you hate Microsoft? or the Donald?
     
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    I've been in IT for years and while I don't make any claims on being a browser expert, I do have some clue when it comes to the interwebs.

    If you're using JavaScript heavy websites like Facebook, Hotmail, and G+ (and quite possibly SF) on an old machine or netbook, especially on XP, Chrome will be your best option. I don't like Chrome, but it certainly has its place.

    FireFox is what I use, but it's a pig. It's supposed to be slimmer in version 7, but it will grind a slower computer to a halt. The extensions are where FF really shines.

    IE9 is faster than 7 and 8 and is supposed to be the most standards compliant of the three major browsers. I haven't used it much, but it has been well reviewed.

    Opera is simple and quick, but in my opinion, it's too simple. You don't get the extension support of FF or even Chrome and when websites are made to look good on the top two or three browsers, Opera doesn't make the list.

    If nothing else, run MSE as your virus/malware software and set Windows to install updates automatically. If you do that, you're safe from the vast, vast majority of problems.
     


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    No offence to you but being in IT means you serve corporate interests and you would not be focusing on personal privacy or security issues.
    The Admin has admitted that the new engine is javascript heavy.
    I am running FF on this PC with some add-ons and other tweaks and it loads fine.
    On another PC I am using an old version of Opera (Version 6) and it loads just fine but not quite as pretty.
     


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