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What is THE difference between 804 vs 74945 last? Thanks

804 is more elongated with a higher instep than the 74945.

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The black button boot on the left is on the 74945 while the brown/tweed button boot on the right is on the 804. They're both in size 9.5UK.

FWIW, 9.0UK on the 804 actually fits me better, however my instep is a bit high for 9.0UK on the 74945.
 

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804 is more elongated with a higher instep than the 74945.

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The black button boot on the left is on the 74945 while the brown/tweed button boot on the right is on the 804. They're both in size 9.5UK.

FWIW, 9.0UK on the 804 actually fits me better, however my instep is a bit high for 9.0UK on the 74945.

Love that shell tweed button boot so much, even though I don’t think I could ever wear a buttonboot.

I wonder what a Balway in that combo would look like. Or with that fantastic color 4 scotch grain I saw on the SoleGarb IG.
 

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Love that shell tweed button boot so much, even though I don’t think I could ever wear a buttonboot.

I wonder what a Balway in that combo would look like. Or with that fantastic color 4 scotch grain I saw on the SoleGarb IG.

They really are super lovely, and actually easier to wear than you'd think. Any kind of brown trouser and you're good to go. Heck I think you can even pull them off with denim if you do it right.

A Balway with a tweed shaft would be something pretty fantastic though... That's something I'd like to see!
 

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Enzo Bonafe makes a fantastic wholecut Chelsea boot, and all you you should own a pair!!

Shoutout to SoleGarb for helping me nail the fit for this MTO.

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The 363 mod is same instep as 804, 946, and 74945 but .5 cm wider like a G wide fitting and shorter than both the 804 by 1cm and 946 and 74945 by .5 cm because it has the rounder toe creating more room for the toes.

Do you have the exact measurements between 363mod and 173 last? I think the 173 fit pretty well, even if it's a bit high volume for thin socks, and looking for another last that fits well. I think the 363 mod fits OK, but what lasts are similiar to the 173 in terms of volume and width
 

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Do you have the exact measurements between 363mod and 173 last? I think the 173 fit pretty well, even if it's a bit high volume for thin socks, and looking for another last that fits well. I think the 363 mod fits OK, but what lasts are similiar to the 173 in terms of volume and width
173 is 1cm narrower and .5 cm lower instep than the 363 mod, the 363 is same width as the 173. 773 E fits like the 173 but is a square toe last.
 

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Enzo Bonafe makes a fantastic wholecut Chelsea boot, and all you you should own a pair!!

Shoutout to SoleGarb for helping me nail the fit for this MTO.

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Looks great pepper, what last is that ? And how you nailed your fit?
I recently got my first shoe from bonafe and am very impressed with the quality they offer at this price.
But I think fit could have been better so looking for options out there to get the right fit
 

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Looks great pepper, what last is that ? And how you nailed your fit?
I recently got my first shoe from bonafe and am very impressed with the quality they offer at this price.
But I think fit could have been better so looking for options out there to get the right fit

This is the 804 last. Since it was a single MTO, Lorenzo was able to work with me to get the fit right. I have an 804 oxford in size 10G that was almost perfect except for a slightly tight toebox and too high instep. The factory took this into account when doing my MTO.
 

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This is the 804 last. Since it was a single MTO, Lorenzo was able to work with me to get the fit right. I have an 804 oxford in size 10G that was almost perfect except for a slightly tight toebox and too high instep. The factory took this into account when doing my MTO.
Thanks , I’ll reach out to him when I am ready with next MTO..
 

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The 363 mod is same instep as 804, 946, and 74945 but .5 cm wider like a G wide fitting and shorter than both the 804 by 1cm and 946 and 74945 by .5 cm because it has the rounder toe creating more room for the toes.

Thanks. Is the model 3510 the Oxford lace up boot? Sometimes rendered with the shaft in peccary or suede? Or do I have the model number wrong?
 

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