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The vegetable tanned semi dress is coming along nicely at the three month mark. I took @Rymanocerous’ advice and have been allowing them to “tan” naturally. Combined with a few applications of VSC, they are losing that raw “pinkish” hue and turning more to the caramel I am looking for...
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The vegetable tanned semi dress is coming along nicely at the three month mark. I took @Rymanocerous’ advice and have been allowing them to “tan” naturally. Combined with a few applications of VSC, they are losing that raw “pinkish” hue and turning more to the caramel I am looking for...View attachment 1603298View attachment 1603299View attachment 1603300
Man that's a fine looking boot and you have kept them in immaculate condition, perhaps by not wearing them much ..... kidding!
 

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I just discovered this defect moments after returning home from taking my dog for a walk in the park and going downtown for a coffee. These are work boots that have been worn for about a week definitely under 2 weeks. The toughest job I've ever thrown at these is walking my dog, I don't do labor or yard work in them and I work a desk job for a living.

I feel sick to my stomach I loved these boots so much, this is absolutely unacceptable and I'm shaking with rage right now. I've waited close to 5 months for these and no that's not a typo, these were ordered during the Black Friday sale and I received them less than 2 weeks ago after the heel had to be re-done since they were originally made with a lowered block heel instead of a standard logger.

I know Bakers isn't at fault, they don't build the boots this is a Whites problem. I will not wait 5 more effing months for my boots to be rebuilt. What would you guys do, take a stock boot or a refund? I have never heard of Nicks having basic QC issues like this I'm seriously considering getting a refund and just getting a pair of Nicks from their ships in under 6 weeks page.

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I just discovered this defect moments after returning home from taking my dog for a walk in the park and going downtown for a coffee. These are work boots that have been worn for about a week definitely under 2 weeks. The toughest job I've ever thrown at these is walking my dog, I don't do labor or yard work in them and I work a desk job for a living.

I feel sick to my stomach I loved these boots so much, this is absolutely unacceptable and I'm shaking with rage right now. I've waited close to 5 months for these and no that's not a typo, these were ordered during the Black Friday sale and I received them less than 2 weeks ago after the heel had to be re-done since they were originally made with a lowered block heel instead of a standard logger.

I know Bakers isn't at fault, they don't build the boots this is a Whites problem. I will not wait 5 more effing months for my boots to be rebuilt. What would you guys do, take a stock boot or a refund? I have never heard of Nicks having basic QC issues like this I'm seriously considering getting a refund and just getting a pair of Nicks from their ships in under 6 weeks page.

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Unbelievable! The gash went through the leather and the lining.
I didn't post but the left boot on my Burgundy BHs is built narrower than the right, that's on top of the lacing not aligned. I could feel it's squeezing my toes when I walk.
I would like to know more about options we have for custom footwear.
 

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I just discovered this defect moments after returning home from taking my dog for a walk in the park and going downtown for a coffee. These are work boots that have been worn for about a week definitely under 2 weeks. The toughest job I've ever thrown at these is walking my dog, I don't do labor or yard work in them and I work a desk job for a living.

I feel sick to my stomach I loved these boots so much, this is absolutely unacceptable and I'm shaking with rage right now. I've waited close to 5 months for these and no that's not a typo, these were ordered during the Black Friday sale and I received them less than 2 weeks ago after the heel had to be re-done since they were originally made with a lowered block heel instead of a standard logger.

I know Bakers isn't at fault, they don't build the boots this is a Whites problem. I will not wait 5 more effing months for my boots to be rebuilt. What would you guys do, take a stock boot or a refund? I have never heard of Nicks having basic QC issues like this I'm seriously considering getting a refund and just getting a pair of Nicks from their ships in under 6 weeks page.

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Absolutely sucks to see this however it won't be an issue getting a new pair I'm sure. The wait pain will be real though I'm sure. If you can stomach the wait I'm sure they'll hook you up with a deal. This is a crazy problem to have happened imo
 

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Absolutely sucks to see this however it won't be an issue getting a new pair I'm sure. The wait pain will be real though I'm sure. If you can stomach the wait I'm sure they'll hook you up with a deal. This is a crazy problem to have happened imo
I like your positive attitude Sir!
It helps to live in/around Chicago.
With all the QC issues , I still think White'/Baker's is the best option, my opinion of course.
 
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I just discovered this defect moments after returning home from taking my dog for a walk in the park and going downtown for a coffee. These are work boots that have been worn for about a week definitely under 2 weeks. The toughest job I've ever thrown at these is walking my dog, I don't do labor or yard work in them and I work a desk job for a living.

I feel sick to my stomach I loved these boots so much, this is absolutely unacceptable and I'm shaking with rage right now. I've waited close to 5 months for these and no that's not a typo, these were ordered during the Black Friday sale and I received them less than 2 weeks ago after the heel had to be re-done since they were originally made with a lowered block heel instead of a standard logger.

I know Bakers isn't at fault, they don't build the boots this is a Whites problem. I will not wait 5 more effing months for my boots to be rebuilt. What would you guys do, take a stock boot or a refund? I have never heard of Nicks having basic QC issues like this I'm seriously considering getting a refund and just getting a pair of Nicks from their ships in under 6 weeks page.

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When you look back at your photos you posted when you got these back after the heel fix, you can see that in this exact spot there's sort of a zig-zag stitch in the exact spot that failed. I'm guessing they were damaged somewhere along the line either during the initial construction or that heel fix, then they stitched that gash back together with that zig-zag stitch hoping it would hold. It clearly didn't.
 

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When you look back at your photos you posted when you got these back after the heel fix, you can see that in this exact spot there's sort of a zig-zag stitch in the exact spot that failed. I'm guessing they were damaged somewhere along the line either during the initial construction or that heel fix, then they stitched that gash back together with that zig-zag stitch hoping it would hold. It clearly didn't.
All the pics of a single boot I posted after I got them back former re-heeling were of the left boot. The rip is on the right boot. There is one pic of both boots too but you can't see the stitching from that angle.
 

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My bad, I meant before you got the heel fixed. There's this area on the right boot where that failure happened where it looks like they went back over it a couple of times or something? It's kind of hard to tell with the roughout but the stitching looks noticeably different in that spot.
 

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My bad, I meant before you got the heel fixed. There's this area on the right boot where that failure happened where it looks like they went back over it a couple of times or something? It's kind of hard to tell with the roughout but the stitching looks noticeably different in that spot.
Thanks for trying to help me find the issue. I've been staring at pictures and looking at the boots of the area in question and I can't find any stitching abnormalities. Maybe I don't know what to look for but it looks fine to me? Other than the ripped leather obviously. The rip is in the leather itself, the 4 rows of stitching seems to be intact and I don't find any loose thread anywhere where one or more of the rows of stitching would have failed.
 

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Thanks for trying to help me find the issue. I've been staring at pictures and looking at the boots of the area in question and I can't find any stitching abnormalities. Maybe I don't know what to look for but it looks fine to me? Other than the ripped leather obviously. The rip is in the leather itself, the 4 rows of stitching seems to be intact and I don't find any loose thread anywhere where one or more of the rows of stitching would have failed.
Adidas/Five Ten had a similar issue with the leather used in their climbing shoes a couple of years ago. Something in the processing of the leather caused weaknesses that would just split suddenly for no apparent reason. The affected shoe that I had split in a non high wear spot. I don’t know if this is a similar issue, but it might be a possibility. White’s will fix it, no doubt.
 

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I just discovered this defect moments after returning home from taking my dog for a walk in the park and going downtown for a coffee. These are work boots that have been worn for about a week definitely under 2 weeks. The toughest job I've ever thrown at these is walking my dog, I don't do labor or yard work in them and I work a desk job for a living.

I feel sick to my stomach I loved these boots so much, this is absolutely unacceptable and I'm shaking with rage right now. I've waited close to 5 months for these and no that's not a typo, these were ordered during the Black Friday sale and I received them less than 2 weeks ago after the heel had to be re-done since they were originally made with a lowered block heel instead of a standard logger.

I know Bakers isn't at fault, they don't build the boots this is a Whites problem. I will not wait 5 more effing months for my boots to be rebuilt. What would you guys do, take a stock boot or a refund? I have never heard of Nicks having basic QC issues like this I'm seriously considering getting a refund and just getting a pair of Nicks from their ships in under 6 weeks page.
Ooof, that sucks. Makes it look like White's uses thin shitty suede instead of full-grain roughout. In normal times White's has been able to turn a rebuild around for me in under 3 weeks, but these are still not normal times and AFAIK White's is still quoting pandemic build times which are about twice as long as normal. Still, might be worth asking Baker's how fast they think White's can make a new pair. And I would demand a new pair, not a repair.

If you like the fit then I'd stick with White's. I've not tried Nick's and one day I'm sure I will, but having one's size dialed in with a particular manufacturer is a big selling point IMO. Although Nick's lasts are similar, there might be subtle differences that you're unaware of.
 

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Hi Friends with high-arched feet : )
What brand of sneakers do you wear?
dress shoes?
Thanks
 

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Ooof, that sucks. Makes it look like White's uses thin shitty suede instead of full-grain roughout. In normal times White's has been able to turn a rebuild around for me in under 3 weeks, but these are still not normal times and AFAIK White's is still quoting pandemic build times which are about twice as long as normal. Still, might be worth asking Baker's how fast they think White's can make a new pair. And I would demand a new pair, not a repair.

If you like the fit then I'd stick with White's. I've not tried Nick's and one day I'm sure I will, but having one's size dialed in with a particular manufacturer is a big selling point IMO. Although Nick's lasts are similar, there might be subtle differences that you're unaware of.
Based upon a recent email from Baker's, as in yesterday, Whites has been shut down for 1-1/2 weeks and are only working at 20% capacity now. I am waiting for a BF SD order and it is still 2-3 weeks out.
So yeah, current build times suck.
 

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