Best Countries to Live In 2010

[itsstillmatt]

IIRC, Australia is just about the most difficult country in the world as far as immigration goes. This was several years ago, so things might have changed.

 

[clevertrees]

N. Korea outranks UAE? What?!?!?

 

[gomestar]

Originally Posted by iammatt

IIRC, Australia is just about the most difficult country in the world as far as immigration goes. This was several years ago, so things might have changed.

I think they have, it was well over 100,000 skilled workers a year last time I knew the statistics (2-3 years ago)

 

[Risque]

As an Australian, I urge all of you to consider emigrating to New Zealand. What I mean to say is *broad accent* where the bloody hell are ya?

 

[Glados1984]

Originally Posted by gomestar

I think they have, it was well over 100,000 skilled workers a year last time I knew the statistics (2-3 years ago)

you seen how many they knocked back!!

if you work the right job and you're under 30, you'll get in Aus no worries.

If you come here by boat illegally, you'll get in no worries but you'll have to spend a little while at the Christmas Island holding resort

If you're English and you have a **** load of cash, you'll get in no worries

anyone else and its tough

 

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by iammatt

IIRC, Australia is just about the most difficult country in the world as far as immigration goes. This was several years ago, so things might have changed.

If you're young, single, in good health and work in an in-demand industry it's not particularly difficult, but it is expensive. Your best bet would be an internal company transfer, as you may be required to have a sponsor.

 

[Glados1984]

Originally Posted by Kevin

If you're young, single, in good health and work in an in-demand industry it's not particularly difficult, but it is expensive. Your best bet would be an internal company transfer, as you may be required to have a sponsor.


Company sponsor is the most cost effective way to do it. great if you have access to that.

what most do is highschool in Aus for 2 years then uni for 3, once you've been in the country for 5 years you've pretty much got citizenship. some do uni for 3 years and 2 year post grad to make up the 5.

Australian uni's are visa factories. they're not shy about hiding it either. I personally think that if you're willing to spend that amount of money, just sell the bloody visas and keep the uni places open to people who want to learn.

 

[jaypee]

If their stories of fleeing persecution in their homelands are true, and they are genuinely refugees, then Christmas Island is paradise in comparison. They’ll be fine.

And our universities are a joke, Glados in right! Dont even get me started on their practises in regards to international students. I had people in my class that couldnt even participate in class discussions or partake in presentations because their English wasnt good enough, but they were taking university spots off hardworking locals. And years after year they were in my classes so they obviously weren’t failing subjects.

 

[Glados1984]

Originally Posted by jaypee

If their stories of fleeing persecution in their homelands are true, and they are genuinely refugees, then Christmas Island is paradise in comparison. They’ll be fine. And our universities are a joke, Glados in right! Dont even get me started on their practises in regards to international students. I had people in my class that couldnt even participate in class discussions or partake in presentations because their English wasnt good enough, but they were taking university spots off hardworking locals. And years after year they were in my classes so they obviously weren’t failing subjects.
the uni's are indeed a joke, i've heard a lot of people say the standards of english are shocking. I read an article on one of the main news sites suggesting that in the chinese culture, if you pay for something, that it is expected that you get it and the concept of paying for a degree, but only getting it if you pass isnt really understood. as in, if they're forking out hundreds of thousands for a degree, they expect to get it. uni teachers are pressured to pass otherwise the uni gets a reputation for being too hard and the sweet international money stops. normally a big group of people getting degrees when they are not actually qualified is a bad thing. But i dont think they're given jobs anyway in their field by australian employers so the circle of life continues.

 

[Risque]

Originally Posted by Glados1984

normally a big group of people getting degrees when they are not actually qualified is a bad thing. But i dont think they're given jobs anyway in their field by australian employers so the circle of life continues.
A lot end up taking their degree back home, where they are considered gods because they are now 'fluent' in business English and have their pick of jobs.

I successfully went through the post-uni recruitment process for a Big 4 Accounting firm, and I can vouch that a lot of those who bought their degree, but never acclimated were quickly shown the door.

 

[GQgeek]

Ya, I don't understand these rankings either. Apparently Canada has essentially the same cost of living as Uruguay and Chile? Uh, I don't think so. I would never base any decisions off rankings like this.

 

[jaypee]

Too true Glados, they don’t really take the jobs, but the resources and time they require when at uni kind of pisses me off. I guess they are just trying to get ahead though, can’t blame them for that.

Then you get the immigrants that are amazingly bright and Australia suddenly becomes Oh So Welcoming - Think Dr Victor Chang who is without doubt almost a national hero. Im sure Australia isnt alone there though.

 

[Tangfastic]

Originally Posted by von Rothbart

UK, Sweden, Ireland's ranking are surprisely low.
UK and Sweden fall down on cost of living - looks like no data for Sweden? Isn't this a list of best countries for rich Americans to retire to anyway?