I don't know if it was the color or what? I did have a more blue denim on when I put them next to it. Maybe I should try something darker. Maybe I should have gone lighter with the edge trim as well... These won't get anymore formal than a pair of khakis for work, but if I don't end up liking them with jeans I will sell them. I haven't put them on yet and I'd rather not till I make my mind up.