I have a pair of the old PAs for Brooks Brothers with the combination rubber sole And I do love them even though many people will say the finishing/sole treatment etc. is not as refined as more costly options. I have since added a lot of things to my shoe wardrobe, but I find for a captoe unless I’m going to spring double money for something like an EG Chelsea It’s hard to find as classic of an option. I think I may finally bite the bullet on a pair of Shell Park avenuesone can never go wrong with a pair of shell PA's. Of course the Aldens are damn good as well.