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Alfred Sargent Handgrade - Pictures

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by clintonf, Feb 22, 2010.

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  1. NORE

    NORE Senior member

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    Guys, stop responding to this guy. Those us us who have worked with Chay/AS know what it's all about. I'm sure we have all shared similarly pleasant experiences (sometimes overlapping) with Chay and will continue to do so.

    Now, can we get back to shoes? [​IMG]
     
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    Very jealous. Just keep in mind that a bespoke last would be great, but it's tough to do without fittings.

    sorry, but you can't have a "fitting" on a last, unless a shoe or trial shoe has been made on it.
     
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    sorry, but you can't have a "fitting" on a last, unless a shoe or trial shoe has been made on it.

    Understood; I will have to rely on Chay's feedback as to which last would fit best, then presumably have a trial shoe sent to me in the US. It appears it will be a busy few months for me [​IMG]
     
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    uhhh... WTF happened to this thread??!!

    +1, that's even worse what ever happened to "operation paprika"...
     
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    Understood; I will have to rely on Chay's feedback as to which last would fit best, then presumably have a trial shoe sent to me in the US. It appears it will be a busy few months for me [​IMG]

    actually after our "meeting" busy will become a whole new meaning [​IMG]
     
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    sorry, but you can't have a "fitting" on a last, unless a shoe or trial shoe has been made on it.

    Of course. That's what I meant. Sorry if that didn't come across.
     
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    Of course. That's what I meant. Sorry if that didn't come across.
    no worries. david, you're one of the good guys.
     
  8. fritzl

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    ...

    let's put it the sf way.

    you seem to be the dumbest guy around.

    fact: there is a guy who question some general things.
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    you're not able to distinguish, nvm
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    another fact:

    AS is doing a good job to establish a brand in a "high" price market.

    they didn't know that are people around who question their business model. yes you

    shame on you, it's just disgusting.
     
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    no worries. david, you're one of the good guys.

    Thanks! It's tough for me to tell if your next post was directed at TC11201 or cameroon, but trust me that TC11201 is one of the good guys as well as I've met him numerous times. Incredibly knowledgeable and generous.
     
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    Thanks! It's tough for me to tell if your next post was directed at TC11201 or cameroon, but trust me that TC11201 is one of the good guys as well as I've met him numerous times. Incredibly knowledgeable and generous.

    ok, then please tell me why his(tc22304) arguments are like they are.
     
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    luk-cha Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    wow thing of the future not to talk about, sex, politics, sport and now shoe brands - talk about getting of track[​IMG]
     
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    ok, then please tell me why his(tc22304) arguments are like they are.

    I'm not sure what you're on about chief? Nothing I said was directed at you, just at cameroon. I find his (camerron's) arguments silly and absurd. I've pointed out all the ways I find them silly.

    As I mentioned, I've ordered from Chay and find him to be fantastic and I find AS handgrade to be an excellent value for money and excellent in absolute terms. Did you miss something in that or do you think cameroon has a reasonable position? If so, let's debate that clearly.

    In short - I find cameroon's attacks ridiculous - he is attacking someone (Chay) who he has never met and who he has never even corresponded with via SF. He is accusing anyone who had a good experience with Chay and AS to be shills. And he's doing it all in a truly obnoxious way.

    I am, like many others, defending Chay, who in my dealings has been nothing but a gentleman doing his best to build his business (and doing a great job). What exactly am I missing here? Something lost in translation?
     
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    It seems we're in violent agreement here: cameroon is a troll who, when put on the spot, doesn't know what he's talking about. Any other disagreement is a result of the general rush to put him down.
     
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    wow thing of the future not to talk about, sex, politics, sport and now shoe brands - talk about getting of track[​IMG]


    +1
     
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    Imatlas just tipped me off to a WSJ article about English shoes. The AS model they chose is particularly excellent, imho, w/ a fine name to match.
    let's put it the sf way. you seem to be the dumbest guy around. ...
    G, are you sure you have the right guy? You may have a legitimate criticism of his other posts, but I thought his post in this thread was right on.
     
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    G, are you sure you have the right guy? You may have a legitimate criticism of his other posts, but I thought his post in this thread was right on.

    definitely.

    actually there is a very offensive mood through the shoe topics atm. don't ask me why???

    i cannot care less if cameroon is a troll or not, though i struggle with the imagination that in a brand related topic criticism of any kind is strictly forbidden.

    the thread itself proves on so many levels that AS is doing their homework and they have delivered satisfying results to their customers on sf and elswhere in the world.

    sf(david) made an fantastic report on their operations. fwiw, it shows the most implementation of handwork throught the northampton factories.

    there is more than way to skin a rabbit. AS walks on a good path.
     
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    I'm not sure what you're on about chief?

    i'm about free speech.
     
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    i'm about free speech.

    I am too, but in a way that is respectful of differences and doesn't simply demean someone for a cheap thrill in the way cameroon has done. Best I can tell, you have completely misunderstood my post, so I will say this as clearly as I can - I am a customer of AS and Chay. I think they do a superb (that means excellent) job. I think Chay is equally excellent (being excellent is a good, not a bad thing). Legitimate criticism of the shoe or the brand is fine if it is based on actual experience with the product, but I don't think criticism of them is legitimate when cameroon has no experience with either AS or Chay. And that is what cameroon was doing.

    I still can't figure out if you like AS, don't like AS or what. But it is clear that you've got a bee in your bonnet abt something and if you do, best to take it off line.
     
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    Let's get this thread back on track (and will hopefully stay on track) with some pictures. These were from A Permanent Style: http://permanentstyle.blogspot.com/2...handgrade.html

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    what a nice shoe spoiled by the silly heel leather counter
     

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