Fur and leather from endangered species

[JLibourel]

Originally Posted by unagiluva

Killing any animal only for its hide is probably wrong, whether endangered or not.

Why? I am assuming you are admitting that it is morally licit to kill an animal for food, although people can thrive very well without eating animals, yet it is somehow wrong to kill an animal merely for its hide.

If it is acceptable to kill an animal for food, why is it unacceptable to kill an animal for clothing--another basic human need?

 

[extempore]

Originally Posted by unagiluva

I'm confused by this thread. OP asks about whether wearing endangered animal hide is wrong, then moves to state that its unethical to wear animal hide from creatures that are not used for food/died of natural causes, THEN moves to say that its unethical to wear animal hide of the animals HE doesn't like to eat. THEN he chastises people for not addressing the original topic.
Bingo.

 

[unagiluva]

Originally Posted by JLibourel

Why? I am assuming you are admitting that it is morally licit to kill an animal for food, although people can thrive very well without eating animals, yet it is somehow wrong to kill an animal merely for its hide. If it is acceptable to kill an animal for food, why is it unacceptable to kill an animal for clothing--another basic human need?
Ya that was probably in haste. I don't think there is a clear line either way. Some animals I feel alright killing just because (fly), and some that i'd wouldn't kill for either hide or food (human lol). Everything else is in between, but its a sliding scale. I don't buy the "killing animal for warmth = satisfying a basic human need" argument because there are alternatives that work better, are cheaper, and are more readily available. We use animal skin primarily for luxury. Not only does meat taste better, but it provides certain nutrients that are hard to get elsewhere. Plus they taste so damn good.

 

[PocketCircle]

Originally Posted by unagiluva

I'm confused by this thread. OP asks about whether wearing endangered animal hide is wrong, then moves to state that its unethical to wear animal hide from creatures that are not used for food/died of natural causes, THEN moves to say that its unethical to wear animal hide of the animals HE doesn't like to eat. THEN he chastises people for not addressing the original topic.

Killing any animal only for its hide is probably wrong, whether endangered or not.

fur items and items made using leather from endangered species

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[PocketCircle]

Originally Posted by unagiluva

I'm confused by this thread. OP asks about whether wearing endangered animal hide is wrong, then moves to state that its unethical to wear animal hide from creatures that are not used for food/died of natural causes, THEN moves to say that its unethical to wear animal hide of the animals HE doesn't like to eat. THEN he chastises people for not addressing the original topic.

Killing any animal only for its hide is probably wrong, whether endangered or not.

fur items and items made using leather from endangered species

read better

 

[dsmolken]

Originally Posted by unagiluva

I don't buy the "killing animal for warmth = satisfying a basic human need" argument because there are alternatives that work better, are cheaper, and are more readily available.
Not for shoes or fur felt hats. Not yet, anyway.

 

[KObalto]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

You make a compelling and well-documented case.

My main objection to stopping eating is that it seems inevitable that I would have to stop defecating.

There are some pleasures that I refuse to give up.


- B
I have to admit I occasionally indulge in roadkill and brown dessicated plants as this seems morally justifiable.

 

[LabelKing]

Today I wore a pair of black ponyhair shoes. Someone complimented me, and I said:

"Thank you. They're made out of real human hair; I killed them myself."

---An appropriate pause, and chuckle from the individual---

"They're made out of genuine negroes."

 

[unagiluva]

Originally Posted by PocketCircle

fur items and items made using leather from endangered species

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I don't see how adding "and fur" will change the validity of my post.

 

[Flambeur]

Originally Posted by LabelKing

Today I wore a pair of black ponyhair shoes. Someone complimented me, and I said:

"Thank you. They're made out of real human hair; I killed them myself."

---An appropriate pause, and chuckle from the individual---

"They're made out of genuine negroes."

ohhh you

 

[Tarmac]

Originally Posted by PocketCircle

fur items and items made using leather from endangered species

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WHUTTT?

 

[mensimageconsultant]

Originally Posted by Eccentric

I highly doubt skinning of animals alive is anywhere close to common practice. It would be damned inefficient. The thing isn't just gonna lay there while you go at it with a knife.

Supposedly the head and maybe other parts are immobilized.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...alive&aq=f&oq=

 

[mensimageconsultant]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Some animals deserve it, some don't. If you have met any animals, you will know what I mean.

Is there a term for a person who refuses to eat plants in their diet? You know, having a philosphy that animals, since they are literally animated, exercise a moral choice, while plants do not. Plants, being more innocent, should therefore be held sacred like cows in Mumbai.

Leaving only animals to eat.

Who's with me? Atkins by choice, Atkins by moral necessity.


- B

Meatatarian