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Australia to ban ultra-skinny models
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+1. I went to a liberal arts school, and while I wasn't a sociology/fem studies major or anything like that, the stuff about social power and the creation of "accepted" knowledge--in this case, the idea the "ideal" weight being dangerously thin as being perpetuated by those with the greatest ability to renforce those modes of belief, i.e. the fashion industry--really rings true. While I'm not of a fan of government intervention in social issues, such legislation doesn't impose any real economic "costs" on people, and structures incentives to create a more socially optimal outcomes. So, FWIW, i don't think it's too bad.Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty
Then again, my muscle dysmorphia comes from reading too many comic books.
How anyone can look at all the fat people shamelessly walking around in public and zero in on the fashion industry as a force of any significant social power is beyond me.
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This is incorrect actually. More and more young men are turning to weights in order to fit the media's representation of the ideal man. It's called muscle dysmorphia and while the actions of these young men may have healthy side-effects, it is as a result of a mental disorder that has the same negative implications as anorexia, save for the fact that you can't die from it (though steroids can still do a number on your body). So with regards to this, I can see why they would feel inclined to steer the fashion world away from the muscular ideal as well as the skinny one.Originally Posted by XenoX101
This "ideal" has been persistant in most cultures around the world for about....all of recorded human history! You really want to blame it on the media?
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This "ideal" has been persistant in most cultures around the world for about....all of recorded human history! You really want to blame it on the media?Originally Posted by Reggs
Uh, no it hasen't, do you realise what the accepted weight for women was in the past? Think Marilyn Monroe, or moreso the Renaissance where women you'd now call 'fat' were admired as the pinnacles of beauty. Look at the men in history and compare them to the steroid ridden men of today, muscularity was appreciated but never seen as of such importance in the past. Tanning was once seen as a sign of poverty as it implied one worked out in the sun all the time, where the rich would always stay indoors, look how that has changed. Perceptions and ideals are not innate, they are made universal perpetually by the people propogating them, as evidenced by the fact that these ideals have changed as people have changed throughout history.
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I heard on the radio today that NZ will outlaw smoking in prisons within two years. Yeah good luck with that.Originally Posted by andewhall
Next July actually.
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Another factor:
Recently Mental Health (Which has been lagging for decades) as gained alot of momentum in Australia for serious reform. What was to be reformed first, was early intervention, child / youth / adolescent mental health and community services.
This is one of those issues that came up for reform.
For anyone that works in Mental Health, they would appreciate that images MUST be described as being photo shopped or not, that will help immensely.
Recently Mental Health (Which has been lagging for decades) as gained alot of momentum in Australia for serious reform. What was to be reformed first, was early intervention, child / youth / adolescent mental health and community services.
This is one of those issues that came up for reform.
For anyone that works in Mental Health, they would appreciate that images MUST be described as being photo shopped or not, that will help immensely.
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How anyone can look at all the fat people shamelessly walking around in public and zero in on the fashion industry as a force of any significant social power is beyond me.Originally Posted by Reggs
This "ideal" has been persistant in most cultures around the world for about....all of recorded human history! You really want to blame it on the media?Originally Posted by Reggs
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Err ... this is a garden-variety beat up. Look at the formula "could be banned". "Could". This means it "may" happen: as in, aliens "may" also land a spaceship next week. The headline is somewhat misleading because that's what tabloid newspaper headlines do. The problem is that people read the headline and skim a few sentences, and then go off with the idea that Australia is going to ban skinny bitches from runways. The government is releasing a code of conduct: it's just a set of guidelines, it's optional, and it means a magazine could, if they wanted, and if they follow these guidelines, print a small "body-image friendly" logo on the masthead page. Lame. No big deal.
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Winky were you raped by a fat guy or somethingOriginally Posted by Razele
My eyes are raped by fat guys every time I walk through an airport or anywhere in the midwest... It's unsightly to look at, it's disgraceful how little people care for themselves and under Obamacare, I'll be left with the bill for all of them. Not everyone has to have an ideal body composition (I don't) but when something like 1/3 of the population is considered obese (here at least), it's a lot more than an aesthetic problem and thinking it will go away by regulating the fashion industry is absurd, it will go away when people are given proper incentives to take care of themselves.
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My eyes are raped by fat guys every time I walk through an airport or anywhere in the midwest... It's unsightly to look at, it's disgraceful how little people care for themselves and under Obamacare, I'll be left with the bill for all of them.Originally Posted by Captain Winky
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"nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"
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Err ... this is a garden-variety beat up. Look at the formula "could be banned". "Could". This means it "may" happen: as in, aliens "may" also land a spaceship next week. The headline is somewhat misleading because that's what tabloid newspaper headlines do. The problem is that people read the headline and skim a few sentences, and then go off with the idea that Australia is going to ban skinny bitches from runways. The government is releasing a code of conduct: it's just a set of guidelines, it's optional, and it means a magazine could, if they wanted, and if they follow these guidelines, print a small "body-image friendly" logo on the masthead page. Lame. No big deal.Originally Posted by AGPi
This is a fair point, but worth noting is that even if this doesn't eventuate, it is still important and noteworthy as it shows the government's acknowledgment of the issues surrounding the media and the fashion industry, issues that have long been spoken about but never formally considered or addressed. And after all the first step to fixing a problem is accepting that it exists, so I am happy in the least for this achievement.
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