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teddieriley · Aug 13, 2008

Originally Posted by Reborn

** Penn!

He busted up GSP last time and lost a very close decision, that was when he wasn't training full time and was a fat 170. He's a completely new animal now.

People realize that although GSP won the last fight, he was the one who had to stay overnight at a hospital for observation (he was interviewed by sherdog from a hospital bed). Hard to say he was the winner there.

Ambulance Chaser · Aug 13, 2008

Originally Posted by teddieriley

People realize that although GSP won the last fight, he was the one who had to stay overnight at a hospital for observation (he was interviewed by sherdog from a hospital bed). Hard to say he was the winner there.
"Georges St. Pierre spent the night in a hospital. I spent the night at a bar."
-- B.J. Penn, after GSP fight

Any Penn-GSP thread on sherdog is the equivalent of the black suits thread on StyleForum. Penn fans claim that he owned GSP in the first round and won the fight, while GSP partisans argue that Penn benefited from an illegal, though inadvertent, eyepoke in that first round.

Reborn · Aug 13, 2008

Originally Posted by teddieriley

People realize that although GSP won the last fight, he was the one who had to stay overnight at a hospital for observation (he was interviewed by sherdog from a hospital bed). Hard to say he was the winner there.

A lot of people thought it was a 10-8 first round with GSP winning rounds two and three due to BJP having no cardio. He fought that fight on talent alone.

** is training full time now working with a nutritionist and has completely changed his attitude towards fighting. He went from thinking he can have the world from talent alone to wanting to work for it and show everyone how dominate he can be. I'm sure if you ask Jens, Joe S and Sherk would win they might be putting their money on **. He made them all look like amateurs.

I don't see GSP knocking him out as I don't recall him ever even been hurt on his feet and I believe he's never even been knocked down, that's including his fight against Machida at 205 lbs

dinted voice · Aug 13, 2008

It should be an amazing fight. About ** not being knocked down, I think GSP could be the one to do that. GSP has been at the top of his game lately. Of course, ** is just as great a fighter. It could go either way, but since their last fight I think GSP has progressed more and become a powerhouse.

Mauro · Aug 13, 2008

+1

No to mention because ** has crazy natural talent and doesnt train that hard compared to other fighters he might over train for GSP which would only make GSP look better.

odoreater · Aug 13, 2008

Originally Posted by teddieriley

what, his french accent?

I don't know - can't quite put my finger on it.

Odd Morsel · Aug 14, 2008

I'll also give the slight edge to ** for many of the same reasons listed here. While GSP's a stud, I don't see him ever knocking out **. Penn by split decision.

Eason · Aug 14, 2008

How can you predict ** to win by a split decision? A split decision means that one of the judges thought a fighter won, so it basically means you're betting that the judges are morons (a good bet, actually) and that both fighters can win, so it doesn't mean anything as a prediction.

Odd Morsel · Aug 15, 2008

Originally Posted by Eason

How can you predict ** to win by a split decision? A split decision means that one of the judges thought a fighter won, so it basically means you're betting that the judges are morons (a good bet, actually) and that both fighters can win, so it doesn't mean anything as a prediction.

I don't follow you. I'm simply predicting the outcome the same way boxing (or mma) sportswriters sometimes write predictions (e.g. Cotto by 3rd round KO) Have you never encountered such a thing?

Brian SD · Aug 15, 2008

GSP by TKO. ** will gas in the third.

Eason · Aug 15, 2008

Originally Posted by Odd Morsel

I don't follow you. I'm simply predicting the outcome the same way boxing (or mma) sportswriters sometimes write predictions (e.g. Cotto by 3rd round KO) Have you never encountered such a thing?
Of course you can say "x will beat y in round 3", but saying the judges will call it a split decision is not saying that one fighter will not beat another, you're saying that both of them will win.

LA Guy · Aug 15, 2008

Originally Posted by Eason

Of course you can say "x will beat y in round 3", but saying the judges will call it a split decision is not saying that one fighter will not beat another, you're saying that both of them will win.

Not really. Essentially, he is saying that some of the rounds will be too close to call, that this will reflect accordingly on the judges' scorecard, but that ultimately, the rounds, though very close, will go, statistically, in GSP's favor.

capnpyro · Aug 15, 2008

I'll take ** to win. And if we're in an office pool and have to call it specifically I'll say by rear naked choke in the 2nd. My thinking is **'s going to bust up GSP's face again and exert a little hawaiian gnp and force gsp to give up his back. Of course now that I say this GSP will win by doctor stoppage in the 1st or something. Edit:

Originally Posted by odoreater

I don't know - can't quite put my finger on it.

WHAT THE **** IS THAT

Eason · Aug 15, 2008

Re: split decision- I think people should say "x will beat y but it will be very close" because the nature of split decisions is almost always 1 judge being marsupialed, and sometimes 2.

Re: pic- Seriously I believe he's taking extra Vaseline from his lip and putting it on his nipples because mat burn there *really* sucks.

shimmyt · Aug 25, 2008

Kimbo Slice vs Ken Shamrock Oct 4th: http://mmamania.com/2008/08/25/kimbo...ght-october-4/

Ken Shamrock (26-13-2)- the 44-year-old mixed martial arts pioneer who has not won a professional fight in more than four years "” is the next man to challenge Elite XC's most coveted possession, Kimbo Slice (3-0), according to Sherdog.com.

The bout will serve as the main event of "Saturday Night Fights" on CBS from the Bank Atlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla., on October 4.

Shamrock was a among a short list of possible opponents for the Miami native that also included Sean Gannon "” the only man to defeat the YouTube.com sensation in underground fisticuffs "” and Brett Rogers.

Out of the trio Rogers was far and away the most qualified and would have likely given Slice the stiffest competition. However, that could have been the problem "” Elite XC matchmakers still feel the need to shamelessly build its biggest star.

And what better way then to have him wallop an over-the-hill, past-his-prime UFC veteran on national television.

Shamrock "” a UFC Hall of Fame inductee "” dropped his first and most recent bout under the ProElite banner, losing to Robert "Buzz" Berry via first knockout at Cage Rage 25: "Bring it On" earlier this year.

That, too, was supposed to be a warm-up for the "World's Most Dangerous Man" to groom him for a big money match down the road against either Slice, or his younger brother, Frank.

It seems like it didn't matter "” at least one of those fights (Slice) is going to happen. Although a win against Berry would have made this appear (to the casual fan at least) to be somewhat of a fair fight.

Shamrock has lost eight of his last 10 fights dating back to 2001 and he's on a five-fight losing skid.

The only thing in his favor going into this fight is experience and his submission game. Shamrock has won more than 80 percent of his fights via submission, which poses somewhat of a threat provided he can get close enough to Slice to take him down.

Don't count on it. But then again stranger things have happened ... kind of like this match up in the first place.

Discuss!!! Shamrock in the second by some sort of mistake by Kimbo and Ken turning it into a submission.

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