I don't know what level they're on, but I like them, particularly since half the time I wear tweed. My checked shirts tend to be broadcloth. But I've owned rtw oxford cloth shirts w/ spread or bd collars by RL, Gant, Arrow, etc. I prefer tattersall shirts to be in oxford, and bd, fwiw. Don't most truly casual shirts (work shirts, denim shirts, etc) have spread or point collars? I know I have an old Wrangler one that has a spread collar. I love gingham seersucker in a spread collar. And all of those I'd wear open w/o a tie. Unfortunately, i agree w/ Foo on this too, but not quite as dogmatically. I have owned navy pants and rarely wore them, so I gave them away. I own and like dark charcoal pants in light and heavy weights, but I rarely ever wear them w/ coat and tie. The lightweight ones are worn often with a barong. The heavyweight ones with sweaters. I am considering getting a cream linen jacket and wearing that with dark charcoal pants. In college and grad school I wore my white/black herringbone tweed jacket w/ white ocbd, black knit tie, and dark charcoal pants. I think that can look very good. Stopped wearing it though, in part because a priest told me priests and seminarians often wore that exact outfit in the 50's and 60's when they weren't in clerics. Too many people think I'm a priest already. I don't know if it's good, but I posted a pic in like this earlier in this thread. Maybe in early December? I thought the same thing, and ordered a light gray fresco suit w/ hip patch pockets. Really regret it, as I almost never wear the jacket as a sportcoat, and all I really wear are sportcoats. I wore my navy blazersuit (3 patch pockets) for my wedding. But I live in California. I have a woolen flannel blue blazer that I enjoy. It has dark mop buttons.