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No, although that too was indeed unnecessary.

I am referring to the (also not spoiler) split-screen deal when they butter their toast (the device also gets used later, with a different character and in a completely different context). We know they love each other; we're smart enough to know that when they butter toast, when apart, they are probably thinking of each other (because we saw them together earlier); so the split-screen thing felt completely gratuitous and pretty amateurish, imo.

I finished it last night and definitely recommend it. It gets very interesting, including a real-life "twist" I had completely forgotten about. Scary stuff sometimes, history.

Yes, SBC was certainly better than what I thought he would be. Moni Moshonov (the Mossad director) was excellent, very restrained. Noah Emmerich (Dan) was good too; the entire ensemble was generally very well balanced.

I will finish this later tonight.

I started ep 5 last night and had to watch it again. I will watch 5 & 6 later. Is it me of did it get very confusing?
 

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I will finish this later tonight.

I started ep 5 last night and had to watch it again. I will watch 5 & 6 later. Is it me of did it get very confusing?
Confusing where?
If you're at 6 you're at the final episode.
It didn't feel that confusing to me, but I do think they may have crammed too much movement into 6 episodes.
 

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Take some “V for Vendetta”, add in a lot of “Inside Man”, mix in some other twists, place the story in Spain, and you have:



Pretty good so far, although it may suffer from the opposite issues of “The Spy” (too much movement in too few episodes) in that it does move a bit ponderously at times. But, really good acting, compelling story, still interesting, will watch to the end.

Sadly, I cannot understand the beautiful original Spanish, the Italian audio is barely OK, and the English audio is actually really bad…some really grating voices. Still, recommended so far.
 

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Take some “V for Vendetta”, add in a lot of “Inside Man”, mix in some other twists, place the story in Spain, and you have:



Pretty good so far, although it may suffer from the opposite issues of “The Spy” (too much movement in too few episodes) in that it does move a bit ponderously at times. But, really good acting, compelling story, still interesting, will watch to the end.

Sadly, I cannot understand the beautiful original Spanish, the Italian audio is barely OK, and the English audio is actually really bad…some really grating voices. Still, recommended so far.
My Spanish is good enough to know the dubbed lines are horrible
 

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My Spanish is good enough to know the dubbed lines are horrible
How do you like the series though?

Yes. Either in Italian or English the translation is bad (and what's "funny"/annoying is that the sub-titles are also always a bit off, i.e. do not match the translation). My Spanish is definitely not good enough to keep up with the rapidity and accents of the original language.

Mainly though my main gripe is that the dubbed accents, especially the English translation, are truly annoying, as if done by a bunch of Valley girls and guys.

Still, it is interesting so far and also I cannot deny: Spanish women are beautiful.
 

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Confusing where?
If you're at 6 you're at the final episode.
It didn't feel that confusing to me, but I do think they may have crammed too much movement into 6 episodes.

Still haven't finished it. A bit under the weather these last 2 days and was not in the mood to watch TV. Will try again later.
 

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A Money Heist jumpsuit and mask makes for a cheap and easy, if a bit obscure, Halloween costume.

Y'know, if you're in the market for such a thing...
 

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How do you like the series though?

Yes. Either in Italian or English the translation is bad (and what's "funny"/annoying is that the sub-titles are also always a bit off, i.e. do not match the translation). My Spanish is definitely not good enough to keep up with the rapidity and accents of the original language.

Mainly though my main gripe is that the dubbed accents, especially the English translation, are truly annoying, as if done by a bunch of Valley girls and guys.

Still, it is interesting so far and also I cannot deny: Spanish women are beautiful.
My ex tried to get me into it. She had me watch it in Spanish (her native tongue) but the subtitles were, as you mentioned, almost as bad as the dubbed speech. I made it about halfway through the first season and that was a year ago
 

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I stopped watching The Spy halfway through Episode 4. It's awful, predictable, lazy and melodramatic. I don't know how it got good reviews.
Definitely not great, but maybe not as bad as all that? "Awful" is a bit harsh, imo.

But as before, for me it felt very rushed for only 6 episodes, as if they did not want to/could not give the series more meat, so in that sense yes...fairly superficial. When the biggest "spy lesson" is "...many brand new eucalyptus trees planted on arid hills help good guy spot bad guy war project..." yes...probably the story could use a bit more work....

Still, there were parts of the story I had not known, so those were at least somewhat educational.
 

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My ex tried to get me into it. She had me watch it in Spanish (her native tongue) but the subtitles were, as you mentioned, almost as bad as the dubbed speech. I made it about halfway through the first season and that was a year ago
I am quickly losing interest, as I am not even through Part 1 (I guess +/- where you were last year) and I see it has 3 Parts. Ugh.

I do wonder if it views substantially better if one is fluent enough watch it in the original Spanish, with no subtitles...but I am beginning to wonder if even that improvement due to the dialogue alone would help much, as the pacing is becoming stultifying regardless.

How much more can they "develop" before it plunges into "Broadchurch" irrelevancy, or "Bodyguard" triviality, or "Shooter" over-the-top-ness, or "House of Cards" total inanity?

Can't people develop appropriate-length/-scale, congruent series anymore?
 

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Definitely not great, but maybe not as bad as all that? "Awful" is a bit harsh, imo.

But as before, for me it felt very rushed for only 6 episodes, as if they did not want to/could not give the series more meat, so in that sense yes...fairly superficial. When the biggest "spy lesson" is "...many brand new eucalyptus trees planted on arid hills help good guy spot bad guy war project..." yes...probably the story could use a bit more work....

Still, there were parts of the story I had not known, so those were at least somewhat educational.
It hit every single spy trope imaginable in almost every episode, the one suspicious bad guy never entirely convinced, copying documents and almost getting cought every single fucking time, etc. The relationships weren't believable, every interaction felt contrived, the fake suspense of potentially not knowing the answer or question, only to be blown away by generic character completely nailing the answer or the bad guys question was not directed to the good guy, it never stopped. It was watchable, I guess.

I don't know the real story, but it is almost certainly much better than the canned cliches and one dimensional characters in the show.
 

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It hit every single spy trope imaginable in almost every episode, the one suspicious bad guy never entirely convinced, copying documents and almost getting cought every single fucking time, etc. The relationships weren't believable, every interaction felt contrived, the fake suspense of potentially not knowing the answer or question, only to be blown away by generic character completely nailing the answer or the bad guys question was not directed to the good guy, it never stopped. It was watchable, I guess.

I don't know the real story, but it is almost certainly much better than the canned cliches and one dimensional characters in the show.
Most spy stories do that. Tinker Tailor levels are very rare, I think.

As before, "The Spy" is not Emmy stuff by any means and nobody here has claimed it is. 6 quick episodes of "OK" diversion, that's all. The superficiality has been noted.

The main problem may in fact be that it hewed too close to the real story (the tree stuff is real, etc.) and clichèd it hell and high water, rather than having the courage and conviction to be a film.

I do not know what Cohen's (Sacha Baron, not Eli) involvement was in the ideation of the entire project, but perhaps his penchant for (I can't stand his) docu-/mocu-mentaries really hurt the thing. If this is his best work...not very good, and maybe not so surprising.
 

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Most spy stories do that. Tinker Tailor levels are very rare, I think.

As before, "The Spy" is not Emmy stuff by any means and nobody here has claimed it is. 6 quick episodes of "OK" diversion, that's all. The superficiality has been noted.

The main problem may in fact be that it hewed too close to the real story (the tree stuff is real, etc.) rather than having the courage and conviction to be a film.

I do not know what Cohen's (Sacha Baron, not Eli) involvement was in the ideation of the entire project, but perhaps his penchant for (I can't stand his) docu-/mocu-mentaries really hurt the thing. It this is his best work...not very good.
If Jon Snow can get a best actor Emmy nomination, anything is possible.
 

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