The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

[gmehra]

The facing looks different to me. It’s just the photo?

you are correct, facing is different

 

[CWV]

you are correct, facing is different

Is it the angle of the lower side? I prefer the look of the facing of the pebbled one.

 

[gmehra]

Is it the angle of the lower side? I prefer the look of the facing of the pebbled one.

Sorry don't understand your question. The picture shows the difference, not sure how to describe it

 

[Zapasman]

the have a nice apron derby model without split toe as well

Beautiful pair.

 

[evangel21]

First wear. Gorgeous plum museum calf. U last.

 

[LThomsen]

Great color!

 

[tbaja27]

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First wear. Gorgeous plum museum calf. U last.

Beauties! I imagine plum=bordeaux or are they differet colors?

 

[gmehra]

Beauties! I imagine plum=bordeaux or are they differet colors?

pretty sure they are the same

 

[monkey66]

pretty sure they are the same

They look very similar to my Bordeaux museum.

 

[monkey66]

Cross post from FOH.

 

[jayteee]

Need input from Vass lovers here.

I noticed all my Vass, regardless of last, provide a gap on the front of the heel block between the heel and the ground. When you apply weight, usually by wearing the shoe, the gap goes away, but the sides of the shoe along your ankles pucker and, in worst case scenarios, bulge outward.

Since I've seen the same construction technique used on P, P2, F and U lasts, it's not a flaw but a feature. Nevertheless, some complain they can't wear Vass because of the side bulging. It seems to be worse with flat feet, since the downward pressure on on the heel gap is even greater.

I compared this heel-to-floor gap with other brands and discovered all the others, with one exception, leave their gap on the BACK of the heel block, This has the effect when worn of smoothing and stretching the sides of the shoe and providing a snugger heel fit. I noticed this on Allen Edmonds, Crockett and Jones, Carlos Santos and Carmina. One of my TLB Mallorca Oxfords shares the 'front of the heel" gap with Vass, but the TLB derby does not.

I've attached two photos to show difference: The dark one is Vass F last and the brown one is Allen Edmonds. (Both are new. This is not heel wear)

When the rear of the heel wears down, the gap will probably even out on the Vass, at which point I assume the side puckering becomes less noticeable.

 

[tbaja27]

Unfortunately, my last Vass purchase from Ebay didn't work out. They're 42.5 - not 42. And they are dark brown museum - not bordeaux, as described. F last.

 

[WhyUEarly]

Need input from Vass lovers here.

I noticed all my Vass, regardless of last, provide a gap on the front of the heel block between the heel and the ground. When you apply weight, usually by wearing the shoe, the gap goes away, but the sides of the shoe along your ankles pucker and, in worst case scenarios, bulge outward.

Since I've seen the same construction technique used on P, P2, F and U lasts, it's not a flaw but a feature. Nevertheless, some complain they can't wear Vass because of the side bulging. It seems to be worse with flat feet, since the downward pressure on on the heel gap is even greater.

I compared this heel-to-floor gap with other brands and discovered all the others, with one exception, leave their gap on the BACK of the heel block, This has the effect when worn of smoothing and stretching the sides of the shoe and providing a snugger heel fit. I noticed this on Allen Edmonds, Crockett and Jones, Carlos Santos and Carmina. One of my TLB Mallorca Oxfords shares the 'front of the heel" gap with Vass, but the TLB derby does not.

I've attached two photos to show difference: The dark one is Vass F last and the brown one is Allen Edmonds. (Both are new. This is not heel wear)

When the rear of the heel wears down, the gap will probably even out on the Vass, at which point I assume the side puckering becomes less noticeable.

That's a flaw in construction that makes the shoe be unbalanced. It's basically the front being twisted in relation to the back. Probably not noticeable until they take it off the last. Heel should be flat on the ground. Not much you can do. It's not the end of the world if it's not too severe.

 

[JUAN MANUEL]

Need input from Vass lovers here.

I noticed all my Vass, regardless of last, provide a gap on the front of the heel block between the heel and the ground. When you apply weight, usually by wearing the shoe, the gap goes away, but the sides of the shoe along your ankles pucker and, in worst case scenarios, bulge outward.

Since I've seen the same construction technique used on P, P2, F and U lasts, it's not a flaw but a feature. Nevertheless, some complain they can't wear Vass because of the side bulging. It seems to be worse with flat feet, since the downward pressure on on the heel gap is even greater.

I compared this heel-to-floor gap with other brands and discovered all the others, with one exception, leave their gap on the BACK of the heel block, This has the effect when worn of smoothing and stretching the sides of the shoe and providing a snugger heel fit. I noticed this on Allen Edmonds, Crockett and Jones, Carlos Santos and Carmina. One of my TLB Mallorca Oxfords shares the 'front of the heel" gap with Vass, but the TLB derby does not.

I've attached two photos to show difference: The dark one is Vass F last and the brown one is Allen Edmonds. (Both are new. This is not heel wear)

When the rear of the heel wears down, the gap will probably even out on the Vass, at which point I assume the side puckering becomes less noticeable.

If the shoes don't bulge, don't mind the gap.

 

[Jan Capek]

Need input from Vass lovers here.

When the rear of the heel wears down, the gap will probably even out on the Vass, at which point I assume the side puckering becomes less noticeable.

I hope I am not misunderstanding the above. If I am, my apologies.

As a flat footer I can confirm that gaping improves over time with Vass, and your foot will get more support. But the heel leveling is most likely a factor only when standing (entire sole on the ground) as opposed to walking.

When walking, other factors are more important, at least in my case. Vass lasts expect yout to have a large foot volume, which is typically incompatible with flat feet. (Sadly, their derbies have unnecessary wide wings to mitigate this). If your gaping is attributed to a low volume, heel wear will not make much difference. Most of the gaping happens when landing on the back of your heel at any rate, when you shift balance from one leg to the other. This will happen even when the rear of the heel is worn out.

Btw. if this is a construction flaw then VASS appears to be selling only poorly constructed shoes.