Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Claghorn, Nov 30, 2015.
Subscribed. Hopefully I can contribute with something.
This fit was substantially less-thumbed than some of my others, and also less-thumbed than most of the fits posted around the same time.
Curious for some feedback as to what might be wrong with it. Suit too tight maybe? Fabric not nice? Should I have not worn a belt? (The belt and shoes were made together as a bespoke project.)
I'm aware that there is some lapel bowing. This is pretty much unavoidable for me with OTR stuff.
Here's another shot with more detail of the various fabrics and textures.
Fabric did it for me.
Can't make up my mind on the square/tie. I think I like it, despite being a bit too matchy matchy
Suit fabric looks like Shantung, too. Too much fuzziness for the formal colours and style.
But also photography, where a few negative influences add up: too much contrast in the light (washed out white). Lots of creasing in the trousers. Hand-in-the-pocket makes waist tight. Lapel bowing is most pronounced from this angle. From my own experience, the same outfit may look drastically different depending on light, pose and background.
Cox, it was the fabric, I think.
There’s much interesting discussion about stripes in the Good Taste thread; predictably, given the purpose of that thread, the consensus there is pretty conservative. So far as suiting fabrics are concerned, universally approved patterns are pin stripes on worsted and chalk stripes on woolens and in both cases these should not be too close together. Beyond that opinions tend to diverge.
Personally I’m a touch more open to multi-, complex, shadow, and other non-simple stripes in shirting fabrics, but even there I don’t like them too obvious so I tend to stick to monochromatic ones. I’ve got a couple of T & A shirts like that, but it’s admittedly a look more common in the UK than elsewhere.
All very interesting and thank you for the feedback. I still like this suit; the fabric speaks to me for some odd reason.
Even more odd is the fact that less than a week later, i bought an almost identical suit for three times the price. However, that one is Brunello Cucinelli and really nice, including the fabric.
Methinks brown suits are G-d's way of telling you that you're making too much money.
But I love brown suits!
It's common knowledge that I am a big fan of blue jackets and gray pants, but there are objective(ish) and subjective issues with this outfit. Objectivish stuff: the collar points look like they are well outside the vest and the sleeves look half an inch too long. Subjective: I think that's a pretty formal vest and the fabric on that jacket is most certainly informal. The outfit has a hodgepodge quality to it, with the vest and pants being both gray but from difference outfits. One thing to consider going forward is the cut of your pants compared to the cut of your jackets. You like your jackets very tight, but your pants generally are comfortable and loose looking. I know that with pants I have like that, I generally wear them with my more loose fitting, comfortable jackets (or cardigans). And slimmer pants I'll not wear with jackets with a more generous cut. Anyway, 28 people liked it, which is great, but it didn't do it for me for those reasons.
There are those who will say that tie is not casual enough for that jacket. I'm not sure if I am one of them. Butchy, thoughts?
That tie belongs with a rough suit or jacket, not something smooth and city.
Colors are spot on, but I think the multicolored flowers of the tie are too spring/summer for the jacket.
@Chulillo 's shirt sleeves are not too long; it's the jacket sleeves that are way too short.
Other than that, pretty spot-on analysis @Claghorn . @sugarbutch 's tie definitely belongs with a worsted suit.
Mind you, these are all pretty good fits despite the nitpicks.
I don't see spotted ties like this as particularly formal. Even in hindsight, I'm okay with this combo. The jacket is a worsted check, not a tweed FWIW.
don't know if i thumbed or not but i really like sugarbutchs outfit.
Going to give this thread another go
The jacket fits well and the suit is definitely a keeper. But the colors are a little lackluster (though I've seen similar color combinations managed to have a stronger effect, so I don't know why this isn't doing it for me here), and double breasted suits (formal) and loafers (very casual) are an odd pairing.
It took me a bit to figure out what it is about this outfit that didn't quite work for me. In the end, I think it might be that the tie and the square are a bit too vibrant for the jacket. A subdued jacket can probably take one vibrant piece, but two takes contrast to discordant.
With the addition of the sweater, there is one too many warm elements. Had the bowtie been blue or green, I think I'd've liked it more. Or if the sweater had been a cooler color.
I really like this outfit, and I think brown shoes can work with a black tie. But I wish the shoes were a bit darker.
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