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The blasphemous odd vest/ jacket thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by size 38R, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    Here it is....... today's odd vest fit.
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    suit pants today, as no hard is work required. with a tame navy/green tie, and a navy suit. white shirt. white square.
    and navy braces, odd vest. yawn, but got plenty of looks going out for breakfast.

    #haha Claghorn, must have either a odd vest, jacket. fits with jeans are a bonus. [​IMG]
     
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  2. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    uhhhhhhh.......close to half (less than my original guess) of fits on WAYRN are generally odd jackets. As it gets colder, this number gets higher.
     
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  3. barrelntrigger

    barrelntrigger Senior member

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    I think the thread is called odd vest/jacket thread. [​IMG]
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    I can't wait for the weather to get colder! I've been buying up odd jackets/tweeds left and right!!! [​IMG]
     
  4. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    What exactly is so heretical about odd jackets? They are certainly very accepted around here.
     
  5. size 38R

    size 38R Senior member

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    and some of them are great,

    but why not explore the wearing of them,incorporating different elements, that's why i was unsure about posting today's fit. a bit boring. but, an odd vest.[​IMG]
    all the random pics i post try to break the "rules" where some look good, and some don't. that is for the viewers, to see for themselves.
    and maybe provoke them to try something new. what i try to aim for has been said. though many members see stuff they like, but it is "Blasphemous"
    so here is the thread for such styles. we don't all wear the same thing everyday, and with more input,this thread could really be a style melting pot.

    here's to hoping........[​IMG]
     
  6. archibaldleach

    archibaldleach Senior member

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    There are a lot of threads on odd jackets already and plenty of fit pictures with them as they're a staple of classic menswear. Odd vests really aren't (not saying they can't be used well or look good, because they can, but certainly not a staple) and I got the sense that the point of this thread was more to showcase odd vest looks. Start putting in too many pure odd jacket pictures and it defeats the purpose of starting the new thread, at least IMO.
     
  7. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    There is already a thread for breaking rules, and trying to break them well:
    http://www.styleforum.net/t/309785/waywrn-peacock-edition/15
    From a few weeks back. Tie is too close in color to the jacket, pants are patterned and darker than the jacket
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    There are also the Friday Challenges which impose not orthodox rules on fits
    No tie challenge from a few months back
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  8. katabatic

    katabatic Senior member

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    I'm all for a thread devoted to odd vests - it's been a bit of an obsession for me recently :). These are some of my inspirations.

    Alan See, wearing the same jacket & vest two ways:

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    Love him, hate him, or just feel "meh", Wooster definitely tries stuff out -- I can't abide by the sloppy shirt sleeves or the ridiculous unbuttoned tab collar, and the lapel pin is a distraction, but I think that the every-piece-a-different-tweed here actually works, with the exception of the tie - a black knit would anchor things better, imo.

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    Ring jacket - I'm having Beckett & Robb make me a similar vest in a wool/linen blend to go with my blue linen suit, amongst other things:

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    Does this qualify as an FU jacket?

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  9. barrelntrigger

    barrelntrigger Senior member

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    Love it! A local guy nonetheless! I'm thinking we've met (or at least glanced at each other) at the B&R SF meet up in April...[​IMG]

    Love the Wooster except when he wears MC top and short shorts bottom with boots...Tried to be open mind about it but yeeeerrrrrrrr...[​IMG]
     
  10. katabatic

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    Yep, I was at that meetup! I'm the bald white guy who's not Gus (abitofcolor) :)
     
  11. FlyingMonkey

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    IMO, the first one is very nice despite some GQ-esque accessorizing, the second isn't so good and not because you can't do denim, vests and rough-textured jackets - of course you can and I do it all the time in the autumn/winter. It fails because it can't decide what it is and I think the jacket is not one that looks like it is meant to be on its own, the particular waistcoat doesn't work in combination with those jeans and the jeans themselves don't appear to flatter him (or he's got them pulled up rather too tight) - plus I just dislike the roll up your jeans to 3 inches above your shoes thing, although you see it a lot here in Tokyo. Your own recent fit you posted earlier is a far better example of how to do a tailored jacket and vest in a streetwear vein than this (BTW, being British, 'not bad' means 'good', I hope you realised that..).

    However, both that fit and what we are now discussing is is a world away from the random combinations of orphan suit jackets, bad denim, inappropriate ties, ugly shoe and stupid headwear, posted in the OP. And if we'd started off with this kind of thing instead of 38R behaving like a complete cock then the thread might have been better received from the start, even in CM.
     
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  12. katabatic

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    Perhaps we can move the thread back to something approaching civilized and useful. [​IMG]

    I agree on that jacket -- to be worn with jeans I think it would be better with no shoulder extension, little or no padding, and definitely not a shirred sleeve head. Inspiration, not xerox-ing :).

    Both jackets I posted have no padding. The Isaia has a very little bit of canvassing (one layer of haircloth going down only as far as the top button, and two layers in the shoulder), and I'd actually be much happier with it if it were 1/2" narrower in the shoulders (there's a tiny bit of wadding there to define the shoulder a little). The other one has no structuring whatsoever, just a bit of interfacing behind the pockets so the stitching doesn't pull through.
     
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  13. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    size 38R Senior member

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    Wow, you just don't stop trolling do you?
     
  15. FlyingMonkey

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    Good points - nice to see your fit getting some love over in SW&D too!

    On breaking suits - I think the questions of whether this should be done or not come down to:

    1. Pattern - there are particular patterns associated with suiting like chalk or pinstripes that should really be avoided on jackets to be worn as separates;
    2. Material - rougher fabrics are suitable for casual suits designed to be worn both together and as separates; worsted wools and so on generally are not;
    3. Cut - looser, less structured etc.;
    4. Pocket style - patch pockets being the obvious marker of informality with flapped or jetted pockets usually indicating an inappropriate suit jacket for use as a separate.

    It's perfectly possible to get suits that you can separate, or even have them made as such, as was especially popular (or at least, often done) in the interwar period, particular when we're talking country / informal / workingman's styles of suit. Some small companies produce clothes of this kind still - Old Town is a key example, which has been reviving British workwear - I love their Vauxhall trousers. I also have high hopes for their new Japanese-targeted mass-produced label (actually the revivial of an old label), Holdfast. When their stuff is available here, I will get hold of some immediately!

    The main point here is that just wearing any worsted suit jacket with jeans generally looks bad, but there's no reason why you can't break a loose-cut tweed suit for example.
     
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  16. barrelntrigger

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    I have a Helmut Lang black orphan which I wear with casual shirts and raw denim with boots. I find black orphans work best out of all other orphans. The one orphan to rule them all!
    [​IMG]
     
  17. Claghorn

    Claghorn Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A suit, 3 patch pockets, I had made with the intent of breaking it:

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    What's the jacket? It looks a lot like the one I just got from Beckett & Robb.
     
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    Uniqlo.
     

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