Matt
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well i had to dismiss everyone early today, there was a fire in a building a few hundred meters away, and so they cut off the power.
Work from home, go on, off you go....
So on the way home I pull into this side street full of antique places, one of those streets that I had always wanted to explore and never gotten around to
And I see this really really nice vintage Patek Phillipe watch.
'bao nhieu?'
'$120'
one of my staff - who lives just in behind there - sees me and pulls in on her motorbike
haggling ensues
staff offering $30, woman asking now for $50 (not a bad instant come down from $120!). Finally employee gets all uppity and tells me Im not allowed to buy it for more than $30 and I have to leave now.
OK. Matt leaves with nothing. All Vietnamese people in the vicinty save face.
My wrist is cold.
But....to the point of my question.
These watches are Patek covers - real ones - brought in by the French 50, 60 yrs ago. Watches died, wound up in shops like this that replace their innards with crap from China. Japan if I am lucky.
So...is this a fake watch?
Some excerpts from my chat with J on the topic as thoughtstarters...
Matt: so is a real case with crap movement a fake watch?
J: you cant ask me about watches man
J: if they look good i like them
J: if not i dont give a ----
Matt: my question was 'if the outside of product X is real and the inside is not is the item counterfeit'
J: there is no good answer for that
J: if you try and sell it as a patek then yeah
J: it may have value just in the case though
--
J: real always looks better than fake
J: even if you cant tell and no one can
J: it just does
J: see that was my question.. why shouldnt i buy a good replica
J: of something that looks awesome
Matt: ahh
Matt: see this is where we drift back to my watch
J: there is no good answer
Matt: as the appearance is real
Matt: case is real
J: yeah if it works and looks the same
J: who gives a ----
Matt: yeah i know, but the internet exists so two dipshits can debate pointless crap ad nauseum
Work from home, go on, off you go....
So on the way home I pull into this side street full of antique places, one of those streets that I had always wanted to explore and never gotten around to
And I see this really really nice vintage Patek Phillipe watch.
'bao nhieu?'
'$120'
one of my staff - who lives just in behind there - sees me and pulls in on her motorbike
haggling ensues
staff offering $30, woman asking now for $50 (not a bad instant come down from $120!). Finally employee gets all uppity and tells me Im not allowed to buy it for more than $30 and I have to leave now.
OK. Matt leaves with nothing. All Vietnamese people in the vicinty save face.
My wrist is cold.
But....to the point of my question.
These watches are Patek covers - real ones - brought in by the French 50, 60 yrs ago. Watches died, wound up in shops like this that replace their innards with crap from China. Japan if I am lucky.
So...is this a fake watch?
Some excerpts from my chat with J on the topic as thoughtstarters...
Matt: so is a real case with crap movement a fake watch?
J: you cant ask me about watches man
J: if they look good i like them
J: if not i dont give a ----
Matt: my question was 'if the outside of product X is real and the inside is not is the item counterfeit'
J: there is no good answer for that
J: if you try and sell it as a patek then yeah
J: it may have value just in the case though
--
J: real always looks better than fake
J: even if you cant tell and no one can
J: it just does
J: see that was my question.. why shouldnt i buy a good replica
J: of something that looks awesome
Matt: ahh
Matt: see this is where we drift back to my watch
J: there is no good answer
Matt: as the appearance is real
Matt: case is real
J: yeah if it works and looks the same
J: who gives a ----
Matt: yeah i know, but the internet exists so two dipshits can debate pointless crap ad nauseum