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So is this a fake watch....

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Matt, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Stylish Dinosaur

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    I fail to see how that is different from a new panarai watch - which is basically a replica of a watch made 50 years ago, but that has purchased the right to use the name form the legitimate heir to the name.

    if you are not interested in the movements (which I am not either, by the way) and you are not trying to sell it, then using a vintage case with a new moevement makes a lot of sense to me.

    enjoy
     


  2. Lucky Strike

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    I am pretty sure that Schrodingers Patek is a real case by the way - there were a lot of rich Frenchmen here once upon a time (and even poor Frenchmen sometimes have nice watches - has ernest taught us nothing?) - and then they did kinda drop everything and leave in a rush...
    This reminds of those scenes with the beleaguered and quietly desperate French colonials in Apocalypse Now. My favourite part of the film, actually.
     


  3. Girardian

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    If you're buying the watch as a work of art to be enjoyed for what it is, this requires that the artestry of watchmaking, the movement, be intact.

    If you're buying the watch as a work of art to be enjoyed for what it appears to be, the movement may be replaced.

    If you're buying the watch as a work of 'art' to be enjoyed for what it is not, the entire thing can be a replica.
     


  4. Lucky Strike

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    If you're buying the watch as a work of art to be enjoyed for what it is, this requires that the artestry of watchmaking, the movement, be intact. If you're buying the watch as a work of art to be enjoyed for what it appears to be, the movement may be replaced. If you're buying the watch as a work of 'art' to be enjoyed for what it is not, the entire thing can be a replica.
    True, but you could also think of it as a piece of history - I think the watch, with the fifty years old PP case, and a new quartz (or Chinese Seagull) movement sums up the last fifty years of Vietnamese history beautifully. In a historical context, the watch tells a story that is far more interesting and dramatic than a pristine vintage PP watch could tell. It's a conversation piece. Buy it for exactly what it is.
     


  5. LabelKing

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    I fail to see how that is different from a new panarai watch - which is basically a replica of a watch made 50 years ago, but that has purchased the right to use the name form the legitimate heir to the name.

    if you are not interested in the movements (which I am not either, by the way) and you are not trying to sell it, then using a vintage case with a new moevement makes a lot of sense to me.

    enjoy

    Some of the original Panerais were by Rolex, which is what the modern Radiomir are based on.

    [​IMG]
     


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    The watch exists in a quantum superposition. It is Schrödinger's Patek.
    What about many-worlds theory? I postulate that Patek's have quantum immortality.
     


  7. Matt

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    This is it: [​IMG] What you guys think? I like it, as mentioned earlier, Im no watch freak, so since I like its style, I am more than happy with it....cept the strap is horrible. Can anyone point me in the direction of a decent strap for it at a decent price? I wouldnt know where to start or what to look for
     


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    Bros straps are excellent. If you go to pmwf.com under the sales forum you'll find an ad by the distributor.
     


  9. kitonbrioni

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    It's a fake. A nice fake alligator should work well with it. Even the oldest Patek movement could be fixed and would be worth it.
     


  10. Matt

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    Even the oldest Patek movement could be fixed and would be worth it.
    thats a very unVietnamese mentality kb....be proud of it
     


  11. drizzt3117

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    So is the watch working since they replaced the internals with a new Chinese movement?
     


  12. Beckwith

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    I really like that watch. Most watch connoisseurs are interested in the movement of the watches and how accurately they keep time. But that happens to be a nice watch, and if the new less "authentic" movement happens to fail, than you experiment yielded a nice case and a sharp looking watch.
     


  13. Matt

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    So is the watch working since they replaced the internals with a new Chinese movement?
    yup, it, like, tells time and everything!
     


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    I want to echo what Nick M said and one or two others.

    Fake, not fake...what difference does it really make here at the price you are paying.
     


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    drizzt3117 Stylish Dinosaur

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