Recognizing Selvage

[drake]

Originally Posted by w.mj

In addition to durability, it feels better, fades distinctly, stacks nicely, etc. etc.

It does none of this.

In-fact, because the selvage edge shrinks differently from the rest of the denim it's actually inferior to non-selvage denim.

You can argue it's more ``authentic."

 

[drake]

Originally Posted by xchen

Non-selvage, but with a chainstitch(wtf?!):

There is nothing wrong with this seam.

 

[chris902]

I think xchen was just commenting on how he/she found it odd that the hem was chain stitched since in the inseam is not selvedge. It seems that most companies which chainstitch the hem also use denim with a selvedge.

 

[xchen]

I know there's nothing wrong with it but why bother chainstitching these?

Also, what is a good term for the fading you find on the outseam of non-selvage denim?

 

[arlee]

Originally Posted by xchen

I know there's nothing wrong with it but why bother chainstitching these?

Also, what is a good term for the fading you find on the outseam of non-selvage denim?


don't they call those train tracks or something of the sort?

 

[xchen]

Seems to fit. I think I've heard them called tracks. Looks horrible.

 

[Clench Million]

Originally Posted by drake

It does none of this.

In-fact, because the selvage edge shrinks differently from the rest of the denim it's actually inferior to non-selvage denim.

You can argue it's more ``authentic."

Uh yeah, not really.

Selvage denim is more durable when made with the same quality cotton and so on. It is possible to make ****** selvage and it is possible to make great non-selvage material, but 9/10 out of 10 selvage is more durable than non-selvage.

Fading uniquely and stacking well don't have much to do with selvage or not, that is about being raw/dry. You can have dry denim that is not selvage.

 

[Clench Million]

Originally Posted by arlee

don't they call those train tracks or something of the sort?

Train tracks, IIUC, is just hte term for the fade you get down the outseam. It doesn't have anything to do with selvage or non-selvage. Both kinds of jeans can get that fading.

 

[drake]

Originally Posted by Clench Million

Uh yeah, not really.

Selvage denim is more durable when made with the same quality cotton and so on. It is possible to make ****** selvage and it is possible to make great non-selvage material, but 9/10 out of 10 selvage is more durable than non-selvage.

Fading uniquely and stacking well don't have much to do with selvage or not, that is about being raw/dry. You can have dry denim that is not selvage.

Back it up. That may have been true four or five years ago but today I bet J. Crew is buying up more yards selvage than all the japanese companies combined.

Selvedge != better quality.

 

[drake]

Originally Posted by xchen

I know there's nothing wrong with it but why bother chainstitching these?

They are chain-stitch for the exact same reason you chain-stitch selvedge jeans. Hint: It has nothing to do with the fact they use selvage denim.

 

[Clench Million]

Originally Posted by drake

Back it up. That may have been true four or five years ago but today I bet J. Crew is buying up more yards selvage than all the japanese companies combined.

Selvedge != better quality.

nice reading comprehension there, champ.

Also, if you want to cry about backing up stuff, lets start with selvage denim "actually" being inferior to non-selvage, as per your claim.

 

[LA Guy]

Originally Posted by drake

It does none of this.

In-fact, because the selvage edge shrinks differently from the rest of the denim it's actually inferior to non-selvage denim.

You can argue it's more ``authentic."

You are right only up to the end of the first sentence. There is nothing inherently superior or inferior about selvedge denim. Also, your point about shrinkage is moot for most modern denim which has minimal shrinkage.

Originally Posted by drake

Back it up. That may have been true four or five years ago but today I bet J. Crew is buying up more yards selvage than all the japanese companies combined.

Selvedge != better quality.

This is true. Then again, there is nothing wrong with selvedge denim. And while a selvedge edge in and of itself does not make top tier denim, the fact is that the majority of top tier denim is made with a selvedge edge.

 

[LA Guy]

Originally Posted by Clench Million

...
Selvage denim is more durable when made with the same quality cotton and so on. It is possible to make ****** selvage and it is possible to make great non-selvage material, but 9/10 out of 10 selvage is more durable than non-selvage.
...

Not true, for the simple fact that quality != durability. Let's not get into this again.

Originally Posted by drake

Back it up. That may have been true four or five years ago but today I bet J. Crew is buying up more yards selvage than all the japanese companies combined.

Selvedge != better quality.

Your powers of logic are weak. The conclusion does not follow.

 

[whodini]

Odd. Here it states that smackdowns are clearly reserved for Friday nights...

 

[Bona Drag]

LOL

he try to step 2 da mack n he got jacked