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[Gustaf]

Snowdons in the autumn.

 

[upr_crust]

x-post WAYWRN - Crockett & Jones for New & Lingwood shoes, Paul Stuart socks, New & Lingwood suit trews . . .

 

[Pascal1980]

Ivywood seems to be a dark tan. Do not have ivywood, but dark brown and chestnut, and the latter are pretty well represented colour-wise in the image below (screen images from C&J), though actual shoes have more depth of colour (hard to reproduce in a photo):
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Thanks zr3zs,

I hihly appreciate your effort to put the screen besides each other. That is what I expected. The chestnut brown is a redish brown, dark brown is dark as its name suggests, and ivywood is a medium brown. Medium brown is very versatile, to be worn with blue, grey and beige suits as well as jeans and chinos.

Best regards

Pascal

 

[Neville Southall]

What do people use to treat the Ross hurricane hide leather?

 

[skalogre]

What do people use to treat the Ross hurricane hide leather?

I had asked Division Road for my natural hurricane hide Conistons a while ago.

"For the Natural Hurricane Hide leather utilized on our Coniston collaboration, we’d recommend using Greasy Leather Cream because this is a vegetable re-tannage with chrome and pull up qualities." (They were referring to the Saphir Crème Cuirs gras).

 

[Gustaf]

What do people use to treat the Ross hurricane hide leather?

This (doesn’t darken the colour):

Oiled Leather Cream - 02 Neutral

This cream has been developed especially for oiled leathers. It contains neatsfoot oil which maintains the oil content and water repellent properties of the oiled leather.

saphir.paris

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

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This (doesn’t darken the colour):

Oiled Leather Cream - 02 Neutral

This cream has been developed especially for oiled leathers. It contains neatsfoot oil which maintains the oil content and water repellent properties of the oiled leather.

saphir.paris

Aah Saphir. Nice products in those lovely squared glass jars. But only if they were available

 

[shoefan57]

Snowdons in the autumn.

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Lovely iteration in grained leather. The side seam is different too - straight edge instead of gull wing. Are these a special order?

 

[shoefan57]

What do people use to treat the Ross hurricane hide leather?

I’ve used Saphir neutral oiled leather cream just once so far. It didn’t darken the leather once it had dried but I think with these pull up leathers the trick is to not treat the boots very often.

 

[Aurdelon]

Groupe Hcp would technically be the correct answer (as they own several tanneries), but D’Annonay is the tannery who makes the scotch grain leather.

Do we know if Carmina uses the same Scotch grain? They call it only "Grain". I suppose they do because they use D'Annonay smooth leathers...

 

[Gustaf]

Lovely iteration in grained leather. The side seam is different too - straight edge instead of gull wing. Are these a special order?

Thanks. Yes, these were a single MTO. The changes over the standard version - straight seam, grain leather, faux cap toe - were based off an old RL make-up. I did a little write-up here:

** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

Tan fairford is tempting and last 373 works really well for me but I would prefer an Adelaide wingtip brogue. Otherwise slim pickings in this sale

www.styleforum.net

 

[KarlHungus]

Do we know if Carmina uses the same Scotch grain? They call it only "Grain". I suppose they do because they use D'Annonay smooth leathers...

I've wondered this myself. The Carmina "Karagrain" appears to have the same stamped grain pattern as the C&J scotch grain and my guess is that it's from the same source, but I say that based on pure speculation.

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Bravo @Gustaf. However your pair them, just enjoy them.

Conistons in Black Shell Cordovan, now on feet:

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I was so excited about getting these I didn’t spend much time considering what I would pair them with 😂 Any suggestions?

Anyways, some initial observations, after putting them on for the first time:

I like the all black aesthetic. However, with a glossy black finish it’s hard to make out much detail, not just in photos but also IRL. The boots become more of a black blob than a well defined set of forms and lines. Things such as colour variations, leather structure, seam placement, laces and eyelets, etc. are lost or hard to appreciate from a distance. What is left is mainly the contours of the last itself. I can see how, from one point of view, this could make it easier to combine such boots with clothing, but I find the loss of detail to make it more difficult. What do other people with glossy black boots say?

The last - 335 - is similar to 325 in that it can span a relatively wide range on the casual-formal scale, but not get too close to either end. This is a quality of the 325 that I appreciate, but for the colour-related reasons mentioned above, I found myself wishing for either a more elegant last or one that is more work-boot like - to make it stand out more, I guess. So the value of versatility may be somewhat lost here. This could also to some extent be a result of the 335 last itself - not sure yet. To explore this a bit further, I made the simplest (a.k.a. the laziest) of experiments by losing the turn-ups (last photo), to see how a slightly less casual look would make them appear. Again, I am not really sure. I do realize I need to try them with other trousers to find something that works.

I probably should have opted for exposed eyelets instead of blind, to make it a bit more casual. Anyone know if exposed eyelets can be retrofitted?

I am very pleased with the standard welt. It fits the overall style of the boot and is the most logical choice for leather soles.

Again, these look lovely @Gustaf . On double leather soles am guessing? Have you found that the 335 works the same as 325 size wise? For instance, if you were a size UK8, would you take the same UK8 in 335 and 325?

 

[lurker33]

Snowdons in the autumn.

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Tan grain? 228 last? This might be my favorite snowdon yet, last looks kinda like EG 64?

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Tan grain? 228 last? This might be my favorite snowdon yet, last looks kinda like EG 64?

Very nice indeed these. Couldn't work out if it was the oak wax hide (from the CJ regular line) or tan grain