Weird, because I've seen a thread (I want to say in the Chinese Autos forum, or something like that) where these have been discussed. I know they have weirdo-stickler rules over there but I believe you can discuss MM/Parnis over there, where applicable. But you are probably not allowed to discuss *FAKE* Panerai, i.e. watches that aren't Panerai but labelled Panerai and meant to trick people into thinking they are real. Parnis/MM isn't selling AS Panerai. Fakes, homages, replicas... they are all different things, but I know the snobs think they are all bad. I know it's it's own whole topic, but yea.