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Michael Douglas says cunnilingus caused his cancer. Is anything safe these days?

Discussion in 'Health & Body' started by rnoldh, Jun 3, 2013.

  1. rnoldh

    rnoldh Stylish Dinosaur

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    Michael Douglas is saying that oral sex and not smoking caused his throat cancer.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jun/02/michael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer

    Asked whether he now regretted his years of smoking and drinking, usually thought to be the cause of the disease, Douglas replied: "No. Because without wanting to get too specific, this particular cancer is caused by HPV [human papillomavirus], which actually comes about from cunnilingus."

    His ex-wife has said "My junk is clean"

    http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/03/michael-douglas-ex-wife-diandra-divorce-cancer-oral-sex-hpv/

    It doesn't matter that Douglas got it from the ex, from CZJ, or from another. It really seems quite possible that he contracted the cancer this way.

    Kind of scary. You never know these days. I have put this thread in "Health and Body" so anyone can comment.

    What is the future of eating out at the Y?
     


  2. jeff in vancouver

    jeff in vancouver Well-Known Member

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    The part you miss is he also said more oral sex would cure this.


    He wins for wacky celeb comment of the week.
     


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    It is well known that hpv causes throat and tonsils cancers. There are many types of hpv and about 75% of the population has the virus. Only a few of them are carcinogenic, the most frequent being 16 and 18. Most hpv strands have no effect on our health or simply cause warts.

    I believe that douglas' cancer is probably multifactorial. While hpv may have caused a carcinogenic effect in his case (easily tested on tumor tissue from his specimen), alcohol and smoking are major synergetic risk factors. Cancer is usually multifactorial and in terms of causes, throat cancer is not as "straightforward" as cervical cancer, which is clearly only caused by hpv (unless you get a rare tumor). Otherwise, boys would get the hpv vaccine (gardasil) shot.
     


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    so I'm safe if I pick 2/3?
     


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  6. rnoldh

    rnoldh Stylish Dinosaur

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    thebouque, You sound like you know what you're talking about.

    Do you think there is any or much risk if an HPV + female performs fellatio on a male who is HPV negative?

    Think of Lewinsky and Clinton. I would never get involved in such a thing LOL
     


  7. mensimageconsultant

    mensimageconsultant Distinguished Member

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    Someone on TV commented that there is no reliable way of diagnosing HPV unless it has manifested in cancer (then it's a biopsy) and therefore his ex-wife could be a carrier and not know it. So, in the context of unprotected oral sex, nobody is very safe from HPV unless vaccinated.
     


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    I don't think you'd get hpv in the tonsils then, but if you touch your soldier and then put your hand in your mouth you can ''inoculate'' yourself. Always better to be safe and have protected sex ;) If you're really concerned seek professional advice.
     
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  9. rnoldh

    rnoldh Stylish Dinosaur

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    No, I'm fine. I was concerned for Bill C. And thank God Hillary C is safe considering how close she and Bill are. I wonder how Monica Lewinsky is looking these days. I can only guess.
     


  10. mensimageconsultant

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    Monica Lewinsky was filmed recently. She looks much like she always has. Anyway, unless it leads to advanced cancer or treatment for cancer, HPV should not affect appearance.
     


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    Unless you're full of warts and condylomas (much more common than cancer)
     


  12. mensimageconsultant

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    Uh, is that a reason why old people often have warts? :nest: Technically, yes, apparently the main reason, but sex-related HPV finally becoming visible in old age - yuck.
     


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    I remember seeing a 1970s era porno where this chick was giving head to a guy who's pen0r had warts all around the base - it looked like burls at the base of a redwood.
     


  14. mensimageconsultant

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    Visual eraser, please?

    Anyway, does anyone know what are the odds of someone with a sexual strain of HPV developing warts on the hand or face? Of course most people who aren't elderly probably will have non-tiny warts treated (especially facial warts) and therefore they won't be suspected as 'unclean.'
     


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