Holes in Crotch of Howard Yount Pants: Anyone Else Have the Same Problem?

[RogerC]

I have the same problem, and a tailor that will put in chino fabric with heavy stitching to reinforce that area. Not something most people will look at close-up anyway.

 

[Journeyman]



I've experienced the same pilling in the crotch on Howard Yount brushed flannel pants and they're not tight.

The pants don't have to be tight - in fact, the trousers of mine that show the most wear are actually fairly loose. It's the underlying leg structure that causes the rubbing, not the tightness of the trousers.

 

[tonylamer]

The pants don't have to be tight - in fact, the trousers of mine that show the most wear are actually fairly loose. It's the underlying leg structure that causes the rubbing, not the tightness of the trousers.

I think that's the problem. I thought about moths, but the fabric around the hole is shiny and worn, too; so I think that it must be my thighs. It's a little disconcerting to know that my pants budget is now going to shoot up.

I've never worn through pants before, but it's true that I sit a lot at work. Although, like someone said, I haven't had problems with any worsted pants.

I'll see if my tailor can implement the solution that you guys have come up with.

 

[Rich0116]



I have the same problem, and a tailor that will put in chino fabric with heavy stitching to reinforce that area. Not something most people will look at close-up anyway.

And, to be fair, those people who would be looking at that area close-up might be impressed.

"That's right, baby. I need the crotch of my pants reinforced."

On topic, I have lambswool flannel HY trousers, wear them as part of my regular rotation, and have had no such trouble. Been almost 4 months now I think of weekly wear.

 

[aravenel]

Definitely not an issue with the quality of the trousers.

Flannel wears much more quickly than more "finished" fabrics. That's the nature of the beast. That said, this does look like more than normal. I have a pair I've worn at least weekly, usually twice a week, for about 3 months, and they have zero signs of wear on them. I'm guessing these don't fit OP quite right, which is causing them to rub--which, combined with the relatively fragile nature of flannel, leads to this pilling.

Regardless, that's a bummer

 

[microbrew]

How does Howard Yount quality stack up against epaulet? I have never owned either and am looking to buy my first actual nice pair of pants... probably something in more of an "italian" cut, or a slim cut. Looking for some versatile navy pants for business casual and whatnot.

edit: also, is bonobos considered decent quality? construction wont be as nice as the aforementioned, but are they a good value for what you get at around $100?

 

[aravenel]

Very similar. IIRC, they are made in the same factory.

Really, it is more about which cut and style you prefer.

 

[Bmeliamb]

How does Howard Yount quality stack up against epaulet? I have never owned either and am looking to buy my first actual nice pair of pants... probably something in more of an "italian" cut, or a slim cut. Looking for some versatile navy pants for business casual and whatnot.

edit: also, is bonobos considered decent quality? construction wont be as nice as the aforementioned, but are they a good value for what you get at around $100?

I've been debating between Epaulet and Howard Yount as well. I have big thighs though so I'm always reluctant to buy pants online.

 

[microbrew]



Very similar. IIRC, they are made in the same factory.

Really, it is more about which cut and style you prefer.

Ya, i understand the cut and style would be different. Also, I know they each offer a bunch of different cuts and styles. I dont understand how I could possibly know which i'd like best besides simply ordering one of each and returning all but the on i like the most? Seems like too much work. I understand neither of these are sold in stores....? So, i guess just going by the measurements would be the only reasonable thing to do.

Just wondering if anyone has any tips as to what might be good, versatile navy pants (could be worn 4 seasons, durable, looks formal enough for a business casual workplace...etc). Any preference within each category?

I thought I'd like the "italian cut" because my favorite pair of pants are some Hugo Boss pants that have what I think most would consider a "european" looking fit to them.

 

[aravenel]

Well, I can't tell you which will fit you best, especially as I know nothing about Epaulet cuts.

I can tell you to not do navy and instead go with mid-grey. It's a much more versatile color that goes with damn near everything. Navy does not.

If you are in New York, sometimes you can get in to see Jamison and try things on. Also, Epaulet has stores here. If not... I'd measure your favorite fitting trousers and compare them to the HY and Epaulet.

 

[HughJ]

The Yount American cut is roomy on my larger than average thighs. YMMV, of course. I wouldn't say the Italian cut borders on tight either, but some find it so. The measurements posted are fairly accurate if it helps. I've ordered Epaulets in the Walt cut, but they are yet to arrive (pre-order "factory finds"). Judging from the pictures, they may be even trimmer.

 

[microbrew]

Well, I can't tell you which will fit you best, especially as I know nothing about Epaulet cuts.

I can tell you to not do navy and instead go with mid-grey. It's a much more versatile color that goes with damn near everything. Navy does not.

If you are in New York, sometimes you can get in to see Jamison and try things on. Also, Epaulet has stores here. If not... I'd measure your favorite fitting trousers and compare them to the HY and Epaulet.

I appreciate the feedback.

The reason I was looking for navy is because, while they aren't of real high quality, I already have two mid-grey trousers. One is from JCrew Factory outlet , the "Bowery" pants. They are a bit too roomy in the crotch and thigh area for my taste, and maybe the rise is a bit too long. Second pair I bought from a Nordstrom Rack... these were the Hugo Boss pants that look like they could go with a suit. They were like $100 marked down from $195 or something, and I really like the fit. I had them hemmed to the correct length. Other than those two, my only pants in my work rotation are some tan chinos from jcrew factory. (I bought a bunch from JCrew factory for my 'start up' work clothes thinking it was a great deal, but later learned they are of inferior quality to the already questionable regular jcrew stuff)

 

[GBR]

I seem to recall that Chris Despos did comment on this if you search through his posts. Basically they do not fit correctly.

 

[microbrew]



I seem to recall that Chris Despos did comment on this if you search through his posts. Basically they do not fit correctly.

What are you referring to with "they"?

 

[aravenel]



What are you referring to with "they"?

The trousers of OP I would imagine.