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Crockett and Jones Sizing Query (Lasts)


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Mar 22, 2024
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Hi. I am normally a size UK5.5E in C&J 341 last. I have Arden, Westfield, Overton, Sydney & Bradford shoes in this size, and all of them fit perfectly. I ordered C&J Audley shoes via their website in size 5.5 UK last year. I understand these are on a 337 last, which is a bit narrower at the toe box, and I was very aware that they pressed against my toe and also felt tight at the top of my foot above the big toes. I tried to “break them in” for a month but they just didn’t loosen off, and I was unable to return the shoes because I had worn them.

I then ordered two custom-made pairs of Audley, but on the 341 last like the rest of my shoes from C&J that fit perfectly. I received them a couple of months ago. I tried them on a few weeks ago for the first time, but they are still too narrow, and seem to fit similarly to the Audleys J have on the 337 last, even though these new pairs are supposed to be on the 341 last.

I’d be most grateful of your thoughts on this. Do the style marking on the inside of the shoes contain the last that the shoes are made on? I’ve attached the style markings in case anyone is able to decipher them.

The old pair have the following style code: 29447 5 1/2 E ST588755001.

The new pair of the same colour have this code: 59447 5 1/2E SP81889002

I have reached out to C&J for their thoughts. I now have three pairs of Audleys (two of which are special orders) which are unwearable as they are too narrow.

Many thanks!


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Dec 21, 2023
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Hi, when you custom ordered with CJ the dealer would/should have mentioned width as an option for you to choose.

The style of a squares of chisel last can add around 1/2 a size to the required size one normally orders

CJ told our local dealer here in Melbourne that their half size effects width a lot more than added length

I suggest you need a custom order that is .5 (1/2) size larger than your normal shoes AND you need the wider option for the lasts 337/341 that you ordered.

Wishing you all the luck,


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