Hegel v. Feurebach

[LabelKing]

Originally Posted by metaphysician

This is true. After Nietzsche died his sister made a mess of his writings.
In Count Harry Kessler's diaries, he mentions numerous visits to Nietzsche's sister and makes biting comments towards her and her rather hypocritical intentions.

 

[Manton]

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All of Nietzsche's books have come to us as he wrote them and intended them to be read, and in fact were published before he went insane in 1890. The only exception is Will to Power, which is not a book at all but a collection of notes and essays that his sister organized and published. Scholars read it looking for insights, but no one regards it as a coherent whole or thinks any of the passages therein supersede anything in his completed works.

 

[LabelKing]

Originally Posted by Manton

??? All of Nietzsche's books have come to us as he wrote them and intended them to be read, and in fact were published before he went insane in 1890. The only exception is Will to Power, which is not a book at all but a collection of notes and essays that his sister organized and published. Scholars read it looking for insights, but no one regards it as a coherent whole or thinks any of the passages therein supersede anything in his completed works.
I understand that his sister, Elisabeth, edited numerous works. The Will To Power was as compiled from Nietzsche's notes.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by LabelKing

I understand that Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche edited numerous works.
Incorrect. He actually had a low opinion of his sister's intellect and judgement, as many surviving letters show. His books are as he wrote them and as he wanted them to be read.

 

[LabelKing]

Originally Posted by Manton

Incorrect. He actually had a low opinion of his sister, as many surviving letters show. His books are as he wrote them and as he wanted them to be read.
Yes, he opposed her marriage to her anti-Semitic husband and other inclinations. However, the archives as subsequently preserved and presented was edited to the wishes of the sister who had wanted to cast her brother in a particular light. Take Kessler's notes on the Nietzsche conference when the sister personally invited Oswald Spengler to speak: he mentions a fat man with a fleshy chin spouting trite garbage that a Socialist worker could do a better job explaining at; nothing original, and not even pretenses to "false glitter". Everything was cheap and superficial and disagreeable.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by LabelKing

However, the archives as subsequently preserved and presented was edited to the wishes of the sister who had wanted to cast her brother in a particular light.
The archives of what?

Again, his books have come to us as he wrote them and as he intended them to be read. His sister did not mangle them. Go compare current editions to first editions (published, again, before he went insane). Read the intro to any Penguin Classics edition for a brief precis of his publishing career and the publication histories of his books. Even Wikipedia -- a source I had once credited you for mastering with a rare facility -- gets this right.

 

[LabelKing]

Originally Posted by Manton

The archives of what? Again, his books have come to us as he wrote them and as he intended them to be read. His sister did not mangle them. Go compare current editions to first editions (published, again, before he went insane). Read the intro to any Penguin Classics edition for a brief precis of his publishing career and the publication histories of his books. Even Wikipedia -- a source I had once credited you for mastering with a rare facility -- gets this right.
The Nietzsche Archives, of course. It was a house where his sister, Elisabeth received visitors and kept her brother's things for scholarly research. Frankly, I am mildy surprised you do not know of this, all things considered, Hitler made a well-publicized visit there at the insistence of Elisabeth Nietzsche: http://gonzo.uni-weimar.de/~ideen/ksb/03nietzsche2.html She was the sole director--and creator--of the whole thing; and as I've noted, I did not state that she edited her brother's books; rather she edited the archival materials to her own ends, which were decidely right-wing. She was also the one who initiated the Nietzsche Conference. I have no use for Wikipedia but perhaps you do.

 

[metaphysician]

Originally Posted by Manton

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All of Nietzsche's books have come to us as he wrote them and intended them to be read, and in fact were published before he went insane in 1890. The only exception is Will to Power, which is not a book at all but a collection of notes and essays that his sister organized and published. Scholars read it looking for insights, but no one regards it as a coherent whole or thinks any of the passages therein supersede anything in his completed works.

Manton:

I refer to assorted things that his sister published that complicated things contained in his earlier stuff, such as Nietzsche's attempted scientific defense of eternal recurrence. I never said that his sister tinkered with any of his books.

 

[LabelKing]

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~fnchron/1896.html