Grant Stone - Official Affiliate Thread

[NYCTechNerd]

Can anyone comment on what the difference between Waxed Tobacco and Earth is?

Also a couple more items have been added to the EEE section (Yay). I may pick up the Brass boot in Black when it's in stock.

Grant Stone (as well as Alden, Allen Edmonds, and other makers) use the same (or similar terms) to describe the same leather and colors:

• Earth is a color (it's basically black)
• Tobacco is a color (it's dark brown)
• Wax(ed) is what they apply to the leather to give it a finish and some water protection.

Examples:
Plain Toe Blucher - Earth is a black "Waxed Commander leather by Charles F. Stead"
Edward Boot Waxed Tobacco is a brown "The Waxy Tobacco leather is C.F. Stead's infamous Waxy Commander"
Diesel Boot Earth is a black "Strong & durable Waxy Commander leather tanned by Charles F. Stead"

As you can tell, @GrantStone (as well as other makers) should at least be consistent with the descriptions on their own website. They have given three similar, but different, descriptions to the same leather.

 

[RogerKaputnik]

Edward Boot Waxed Tobacco is a brown "The Waxy Tobacco leather is C.F. Stead's infamous Waxy Commander"

As you can tell, @GrantStone (as well as other makers) should at least be consistent with the descriptions on their own website. They have given three similar, but different, descriptions to the same leather.

Yes I'm sure CF Stead would appreciate everyone refering to their Waxy Commander as "infamous." Hmmm...strange description.

 

[mak1277]

Yes I'm sure CF Stead would appreciate everyone refering to their Waxy Commander as "infamous." Hmmm...strange description.

 

[GrantStone]

Can anyone comment on what the difference between Waxed Tobacco and Earth is?

Also a couple more items have been added to the EEE section (Yay). I may pick up the Brass boot in Black when it's in stock.

The earth is a dark brown with more of an ash base, with little to no red. The tobacco is a warmer color with a reddish-brown base. Since the base of the tobacco color is lighter, the two-tone effect in the creasing will be more noticeable as well.

Earth PTB on left, Edward waxed tobacco on the right.

Grant Stone (as well as Alden, Allen Edmonds, and other makers) use the same (or similar terms) to describe the same leather and colors:

• Earth is a color (it's basically black)
• Tobacco is a color (it's dark brown)
• Wax(ed) is what they apply to the leather to give it a finish and some water protection.

Examples:
Plain Toe Blucher - Earth is a black "Waxed Commander leather by Charles F. Stead"
Edward Boot Waxed Tobacco is a brown "The Waxy Tobacco leather is C.F. Stead's infamous Waxy Commander"
Diesel Boot Earth is a black "Strong & durable Waxy Commander leather tanned by Charles F. Stead"

As you can tell, @GrantStone (as well as other makers) should at least be consistent with the descriptions on their own website. They have given three similar, but different, descriptions to the same leather.

Yes I'm sure CF Stead would appreciate everyone refering to their Waxy Commander as "infamous." Hmmm...strange description.

Appreciate the constructive criticism

We do need to improve this. As we add styles, it's one person (me) creating these product pages and writing the descriptions so you think it would be more consistent.

 

[stook1]

The earth is a dark brown with more of an ash base, with little to no red. The tobacco is a warmer color with a reddish-brown base. Since the base of the tobacco color is lighter, the two-tone effect in the creasing will be more noticeable as well.

Earth PTB on left, Edward waxed tobacco on the right.
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Appreciate the constructive criticism

We do need to improve this. As we add styles, it's one person (me) creating these product pages and writing the descriptions so you think it would be more consistent.

It’s easy to lose track of the fact that you guys are a small company and, I’m sure, multitasking on all aspects of your business. This is really an insignificant “issue” in the grand scheme of things, especially given the level of service that you offer.

Even big companies, presumably with staffed copy editors, have these sorts of inconsistencies.

 

[NYCTechNerd]

Appreciate the constructive criticism

We do need to improve this. As we add styles, it's one person (me) creating these product pages and writing the descriptions so you think it would be more consistent.

DM me if you want some help with copy editing especially with "current" product pages. I helped a YouTube cobbler with his updated/new website on the exact same thing (consistency) so I have been down this road before. And I am married to a High School English teacher so I get scolded all the time when I do not use correct grammar and punctuation.

 

[Taprisharika]

Has anybody ever bought Grant Stones that were such bad matching pairs leather-wise? I have looked through the whole gallery here and also all Grant Stone posted photos and tagged photos on Instagram and I think I just got really really unlucky. It is not the creasing that bugs me (cmxl is going to crease), it is more that fact that these 2 boots look drastically different, as if the vamp leather was cut from completely different hides. I do love Grant Stone, just wondering if anybody else has experienced this?

 

[audog]

Has anybody ever bought Grant Stones that were such bad matching pairs leather-wise? I have looked through the whole gallery here and also all Grant Stone posted photos and tagged photos on Instagram and I think I just got really really unlucky. It is not the creasing that bugs me (cmxl is going to crease), it is more that fact that these 2 boots look drastically different, as if the vamp leather was cut from completely different hides. I do love Grant Stone, just wondering if anybody else has experienced this?
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CXL does this sometimes. I have a couple pair of CXL boots, 1 GS and 1 from another company that look very similar to yours. One boot loose grain/creasing other boot not. Wear them in good health and enjoy a great pair of boots!

 

[GentlemanJeff]

Has anybody ever bought Grant Stones that were such bad matching pairs leather-wise? I have looked through the whole gallery here and also all Grant Stone posted photos and tagged photos on Instagram and I think I just got really really unlucky. It is not the creasing that bugs me (cmxl is going to crease), it is more that fact that these 2 boots look drastically different, as if the vamp leather was cut from completely different hides. I do love Grant Stone, just wondering if anybody else has experienced this?
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This level of difference happens to me all the time -- my smaller foot leads to more creasing/wrinkling, my bigger foot usually keeps the right shoe/boot looking brand new. Maybe the same thing is happening to you.

 

[Taprisharika]

This level of difference happens to me all the time -- my smaller foot leads to more creasing/wrinkling, my bigger foot usually keeps the right shoe/boot looking brand new. Maybe the same thing is happening to you.

I have wondered if that could be the case but this is the first boot this has happened on.

 

[stook1]

I have wondered if that could be the case but this is the first boot this has happened on.

Nah, as @audog described it's the nature of CXL sometimes. There's nothing wrong with your boots per se. The leather on both is considered normal. Having said that, this is the reason why I very seldom purchase CXL myself. CXL with exceptionally tight creasing patterns I really like a lot but it's difficult to know what you are going to get until after the first several steps when the creasing forms.

 

[Erikdayo]

Never know what you're going to get with CXL until it's too late to return. That said it's still a wonderful leather.

Trying out some Grant Stone boots in a different size soon. Despite my 9.5D brannock size I've realized that 9D is too tight for my toes. Wyatt suggested trying 8EEE. Will be interesting to see how that goes! Perhaps 9.5D or 9E would also work.

 

[audog]

Nah, as @audog described it's the nature of CXL sometimes. There's nothing wrong with your boots per se. The leather on both is considered normal. Having said that, this is the reason why I very seldom purchase CXL myself. CXL with exceptionally tight creasing patterns I really like a lot but it's difficult to know what you are going to get until after the first several steps when the creasing forms.

Yes, CXL can be weird at times, but it is a great leather, particularly for boots.

 

[Darkishhaddock]

It is not the creasing that bugs me (cmxl is going to crease), it is more that fact that these 2 boots look drastically different, as if the vamp leather was cut from completely different hides.

cxl lottery! From nick horween himself last week on stitch down podcast:

https://www.stitchdown.com/horween-leather-school/what-is-loose-grain-leather/

 

[alkydrinker]

Bad luck with an odd flaw on my first pair of GS loafers (not purchased as factory seconds). The outer sidewall on the shoe that has the green line is 5 mm shorter than the outer sidewall on the other shoe (measured at the green line). I think it's noticeable in the pic below, but probably a little moreso in real life. But looking at the pic below, you can see how the band of leather along the top edge of the problem shoe pitches downward more. That 5mm difference makes the sidewall about 11% shorter than the shoe's mate...so noticeable to the naked eye.

I am very laid back about most little craftsmanship flaws on GYW shoes, but I quickly noticed this during my initial inspection and really don't want a pair of shoes that's asymmetrical. So, I'm exchanging them for same make/model/size. Really love everything else tho, very attractive and nice fitting loafers, so I'm looking forward to getting the replacement pair.