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Church's Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Closer, Mar 30, 2009.

  1. antirabbit

    antirabbit Senior member

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    Antirabbit,
    25 years wow!
    I would like to ask you a question (or anyone else lurking)

    With all care measures (lotioning, rotation, trees, etc,),
    how long can a pair of shoes last before the uppers just give way?

    I know there are no absolutes,,but just curious.

    25 years is quite impressive. My Compliments.



    They were my fathers, he did not take care of them. I got them 15 years ago, beat the life out of them. Found them in a box 3 years ago and had them recrafted last year. They look pretty good, Ill snap a few pics tonight for you. I have reconditioned them, but honestly they held up on their own.
     
  2. Ged

    Ged Well-Known Member

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    I just ordered these: http://www.herringshoes.co.uk/produc...electedFitID=0

    I don't care about the price, or what else I could have gotten - my fiancee liked these specifically and I am going to wear them to my wedding (assuming that when they come in they look good with the rest of my outfit).


    I happen to have a real soft spot for Church's. My now wife bought me my first pair, exactly those black Charmouths, for my Specialist Exams. I went in feeling a million bucks and nailed the exam. I subsequently wore them a year later for our wedding (I hadn't worn them in between). I will always love those shoes.

    I've gone on to own GG, EG, AEs (and being an Aussie own many RMs) but I love my 3 pair of Churchs. They are sturdily built, classically designed and the corrected grain issue doesn't bother me in the slightest (the other 2 pair are nevada calf).

    I do think price should always be a consideration. We paid full price for the Charmouths, but the other 2 were bought from Herring. In that price bracket I shop around and compare Churchs with CJ when making my future buying decisions.

    For anyone who's interested in fragrance and the fragrance forum Basenotes, Churchs are exactly the same as Creed fragrances - establishment brand, expensive, not quite as trendy, too small to be cheap, too big to be niche, they suffer from the "Tall Poppy Syndrome".

    FWIW all 3 apir of mine are pre-Prada. But I've seen the post-Prada stuff at Leffot, some of the fashion forward stuff is overpriced and pleather looking, but a few of the new traditional models are really quite handsome.

    Anyway, to each his own. I manage to find room for a lot of brands in my closet.

    Enjoy your Charmouths!

    Ged
     
  3. Warren G.

    Warren G. Senior member

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    I bought this at the b/s a while back. Vintage church's : [​IMG]
     
  4. acidboy

    acidboy Senior member

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    in line with the spectator love in other threads....

    [​IMG]
     
  5. lermontov

    lermontov Senior member

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    [​IMG]

    Some Church's are a croc
     
  6. TCN

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    I like Church's. For ten years now, despite flirtations with C&J handgrade and EG, my "go to" black cap-toe bal has been the Church's Consul on the 73 last. I love that shoe.

    While the construction might not be on par with C&J handgrade (although, my C&J's have an odd squeak eminating from the tongue area), it's fine, and I like the shape of the shoe quite a bit.

    I have had an experience with post-Prada Consuls (100 last). The quality was fine (I actually prefer the linen fore-lining as opposed to the all leather post-Prada's, but that's just me), but the 100 last was horrible. I wore them maybe three times, and now they're in my trunk about to be shipped off to a friend.

    My issue with the current Church's is that they are simply overpriced for what they are.
     
  7. Closer

    Closer Senior member

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    I think they are overpriced for what they are as well. For 378.00, on sale in a brick and morter store, I was happy to add them to my collection. I look forward to seeing how they last compared to other more favored brands.
     
  8. A Guy from Shanghai

    A Guy from Shanghai Senior member

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    Hardly any crease after more than a dozen of wears.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Closer

    Closer Senior member

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    Hardly any crease after more than a dozen of wears.

    [​IMG]


    Are these "post Prada" ???
     
  10. A Guy from Shanghai

    A Guy from Shanghai Senior member

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    Are these "post Prada" ???

    I think so. The model is called Amberley custom grade.
     
  11. pabloj

    pabloj Senior member

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    Sorry but I own a couple of post Prada Church's including the classic Consul in black and a pair of Graftons
    Honestly my C&J benchgrades, Carmina and Tricker's are much better both in style and quality.
     
  12. antirabbit

    antirabbit Senior member

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    Here you go yall.

    These were purchased in the fall of 1981 in Cambridge England by my father. We lived there from 81-84. So, they are more than 25 years old. They have been worn heavily by him, and by myself with out trees or any leather care.
    The patina is a little false, but mostly totally authentic.
    These are insanely comfortable.
     
  13. Tangfastic

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    I'm very happy with the one pair of Church's I own. They have Milan on the insole alongside the other cities, so I assume they are post Prada. I got them second hand and am about to send them for re-crafting having briefly tried them on (very comfortable). The leather is soft, very finely creased at the toe. They seem very sturdily built, more so than the two pairs of Grenson's masterpiece I own, though I wouldn't call them 'clunky'.
     
  14. Ich_Dien

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    Here you go yall.

    These were purchased in the fall of 1981 in Cambridge England by my father. We lived there from 81-84. So, they are more than 25 years old. They have been worn heavily by him, and by myself with out trees or any leather care.
    The patina is a little false, but mostly totally authentic.
    These are insanely comfortable.


    Very bizarre last.
     
  15. antirabbit

    antirabbit Senior member

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    ??? They are old. The soles are not original either.
     
  16. bigbris1

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    I think my suede Chetwynds on the 173 are post-Prada & I like them very much. The first high-end shoes I was exposed to were Church's, so I had to find a place for them in my limited collection.

    I agree with Foo about seeing them as the "Alden of England", what with their black sole edges on brown uppered shoes & such. Built just as well as the next shoe, and are comfortable.

    They also offer a nice, sturdy box
     
  17. Avebury

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    I like the solid, robust look to their shoes, but agree that post Prada quality is often iffy. Not as good as my Tricker's and Crockett and Jones. Main gripe is with the price point: way, way overpriced. "Handgrade" Crockett and Jones or "Custom Grade" Church's? No contest.
     
  18. Nexus6

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    Here you go yall.

    These were purchased in the fall of 1981 in Cambridge England by my father. We lived there from 81-84. So, they are more than 25 years old. They have been worn heavily by him, and by myself with out trees or any leather care.
    The patina is a little false, but mostly totally authentic.
    These are insanely comfortable.


    Hi Antirabbit,
    Thank you for sharing [​IMG]

    Just a thought...but have you considered using one of those spring-type shoe trees?
    Look here> http://www.styleforum.net/attachment...0&d=1231355307
    Just to maintain shape, or regain shape?

    I know Cedar should be used,
    and I do on my own shoes,
    but whenever I get a nice pair of older shoes from a thift store,
    I find that by lotioning the shoe with my hands,
    working the leather until it softens,
    then using a spring-tree to regain the original shape,
    I get (usually) 70-85 % of the original shape back.

    Sometimes I will even stuff some bubble wrap into a pair,
    like for a month or so...lotioning & working the leather (gently) every week.

    It's just a thought...not like the student can teach the master anything,
    but in respect of your fathers shoes.

    Again, thank you for sharing the photos!
    They look comfy [​IMG]

    Lastly, (no pun intended)

    To adress the original thread....

    Church's are hopelessly out of my reach.
    I have seen them occasionally at thrift stores,
    but they always, and I mean always seem to be a size 7 or 8
    whereas I am a 10.5-11 (43-44)

    All I can do is admire and share your gentlemens joy.
    Church's look wonderful!
     
  19. Closer

    Closer Senior member

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    Church's are hopelessly out of my reach.
    I have seen them occasionally at thrift stores,
    but they always, and I mean always seem to be a size 7 or 8
    whereas I am a 10.5-11 (43-44)

    All I can do is admire and share your gentlemens joy.
    Church's look wonderful![/quote]

    ====

    Stay away from Allen Edmonds. AE is the gateway drug. First you are just doing AE, next thing you know you are doing Church's, C&J, Trickers, and eventually you are taking Edward Geen through a needle.

    Those AE's will give you your fix at first, then you will look at that cluncky all rubber heel like your hot girl friend that gained 30 pounds. You will long for the combo heel and nail pattern of another.

    It is best that you do not travel down this path at all.
     
  20. Get Smart

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    just picked these up in Paris last week

    awesome shoes, amazingly comfortable. actually saw a few pairs I really liked over there

    [​IMG]
     

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