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[OtterMeanGreen]

I mean the opposite. Since the chassis on these cars are lighter and more rigid, their suspensions work more efficiently. Hence, Ferraris and Porsches are much more comfortable than people might imagine.

What I meant was there is a clear difference in driver feeling between a 430 and a Scuderia, a 360 and a Stradale, a 458 and a Speciale. At least that's what I felt driving them on the same road conditions.

 

[TheFoo]

I'm surprised this has not been said yet given the legit double entendre: peak oil.

Ha.

For what it's worth, Driven race oil seems to be the top dog choice right now. Most other GT3 owners, however, are waiting until after their warranties run out to switch.

That translates to less then 2,000 miles per interval, can you see how that might seem like overkill when most dealership service centers recommend 5,000 miles? I've had a master certified Ferrari technician state to my face that 7500 miles is completely fine for my engine and in the manner I drive (like a grandma most of the time). He even stated I could go 10K if I so chose to.

I think you'd need to have a candid, under-the-table conversation with someone senior and inside the company to confirm. A front line guy like your technician has to tow the official party line. He also simply may not know, not being behind the actual engineering and development.

The guys who engineered my car don't follow the break-in procedure or oil change guidelines laid out in the user manual. I do what they do, not what the paper says.

Anyway, changing more often can only be beneficial.

 

[OtterMeanGreen]

10k? Bro, you want to risk it like that? I don't think so.

Not sure if that is directed at me, but as I stated I don't risk it like that, instead choosing an in-between at 7500 miles.

 

[TheFoo]

10k? Bro, you want to risk it like that? I don't think so.

Yeah, sounds hairy.

 

[Thrift Vader]

I literally posted a link to Porsche's recommendation for the GT3 which is 12,000 miles. Most modern cars are either 5k or 10k miles using synthetic oil.

I'm glad you know more than the engineers at the manufacturers though.

Here to help.


@TheFoo This is a conundrum. best to research the oils yourself. via specs, and anecdotes.

-there could be a chance that "Wako's" Oils are approved. through Rauhwelt , and the JDM connection. They are known on a ground level as motorsports first oils. or "Craft Oils" if you will. small batch. no compromise.
You could contact the more "Boutique" Porsche guys, to feel it out. on your end. because of course i can get the oil. but you'd need a guy there to order it.

otherwise, you can go with the best from Elf. or even the Greddy Blue. (goes in Blue, loses colour over time)

Ran Motul for a while. but with an engine failure, i can't honestly endorse it. even if that engine went through hell. it's compromised.

got a list of approved fluids?

here? Wako's.

 

[OtterMeanGreen]

Ha.

For what it's worth, Driven race oil seems to be the top dog choice right now. Most other GT3 owners, however, are waiting until after their warranties run out to switch.



I think you'd need to have a candid, under-the-table conversation with someone senior and inside the company to confirm. A front line guy like your technician has to tow the official party line.

The guys who engineered my car don't follow the break-in procedure or oil change guidelines laid out in the user manual. I do what they do, not what the paper says.

Anyway, changing more often can only be beneficial.

Like I said he's a friend of mine and it was an off the cuff conversation after hours and away from earshot from the service gestapo's. It was his own personal advice to help me save some money and time. I use to do it every 5K for more then half the life of my vehicle. Also its a Honda Civic not a Porsche GT3 we are comparing here.

 

[TheFoo]

Here to help.


@TheFoo This is a conundrum. best to research the oils yourself. via specs, and anecdotes.

-there could be a chance that "Wako's" Oils are approved. through Rauhwelt , and the JDM connection. They are known on a ground level as motorsports first oils. or "Craft Oils" if you will. small batch. no compromise.
You could contact the more "Boutique" Porsche guys, to feel it out. on your end. because of course i can get the oil. but you'd need a guy there to order it.

otherwise, you can go with the best from Elf. or even the Greddy Blue. (goes in Blue, loses colour over time)

Ran Motul for a while. but with an engine failure, i can't honestly endorse it. even if that engine went through hell. it's compromised.

got a list of approved fluids?

here? Wako's.

Funny you mention Motul, because that is the best oil on the approved list. Not the motorsport-grade stuff, but the 5w40 100% synthetic oil they brand as "8100 X-cess". Most of the GT3 guys on Rennlist are using it.

However, the 300V race oil is supposed to be the optimal one from Motul (as confirmed by both Motul and informally by Porsche).

Have you heard of a U.S. oil company called Driven? A lot of the Porsche Cup teams use it in their GT3s. Supposedly it is the best stuff available to consumers, period.

 

[Artisan Fan]

Yes, the feeling of quality is palpable. Unshakeable chassis and precise controls go a long way.

I continue to be amazed by how comfortable the ride is. Very compliant and well-damped. Not even Manhattan potholes unsettle the car. You feel the bumps but never any aftershocks or lateral to-and-fro.

Same here. The ride is very comfy given the performance level.

 

[Artisan Fan]

Artisan Fan, is that what you really look like? This changes things.

Is it changing things for the better or worse?

 

[TheFoo]

BMW Vision M Next

The kidney grilles are no longer conjoined. But they are also covered by glass panels laser-etched with mini BMW roundels. Also it looks like they just re-skinned an NSX.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Is it changing things for the better or worse?

Haha, always the better, I just wanted to see what you would say.

 

[otc]

Went camping down in Virginia this weekend. Finally passed 1,000 miles on the odometer, marking the end of break-in. Promptly ran up to 9,000 rpm. Divine lunacy.

Anyone else find it funny that Foo has been peak-911ing this whole time without having even put the pedal to the floor yet?

 

[patrickBOOTH]

My father makes and blends his own oils for his car.

 

[TheFoo]

I kind of want a roof box.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Too touring, bro.